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Experience with Chloroquine in India-help
Hallo all, I’m traveling to North India, (Kolkata, Orissa and Meghalaya), in 2 weeks and I was suggested to do some kind of malaria prevention. I know about Lariam but I feel it’s too strong and since I’ll be staying there about 6 weeks it means I’ll have to be on it for about 11 weeks.. Anyone had experience with chloroquine? it should be a little softer but I know that in some areas doesn’t work well, is North India one of them? Thanks a lot, Simone
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Simone Donati
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Thu Jul 19 21:07:19 UTC 2007
(ed. Mar 12 2008)
Florence,
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Simone, I suggest asking/seeing what the locals are using for prevention (checking in with your contacts in the areas, scan the news, etc.) I have used neem-based oils and creams in several malaria areas and it has worked fine, staying away from many of the meds unless completely necessary as they make me feel out of character, sick, and all the rest. Have a safe trip and enjoy India.
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If you are concerned and you have every right to be, use a “treated” mosquito net at night. The Anopheles mosquito only bites at night or early dawn. If I were a mosqutio I’d be hungry all the time. And what if you wake one up and its hungry during the day?
I have done a good deal of reading on the subject as I was, and still may do a project on malaria. Many seemed to take up malaria as a project in the last year, so who knows. When they tire of it I’ll take it up with a different slant.
I’ve gotten Chikungunya in India but never Malaria. Try using a repellant like DEET. Just don’t use it on open cuts.
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I had no problem taking lariam, and I would take it again. But it is a personal choice.
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I’m no doctor, but…. There is widespread resistance to Chloroquine almost everywhere, as you can see from the map above. If you are unhappy taking Lariam then I suggest Doxycycline which is virtually as effective but with fewer side effects (just be careful under the sun as it increases your chance of getting sunburnt). Cheers, Ben
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There has been a long thread on this on LS before…
Repellent, mosquito net, long sleeves, socks, and a quick reaction in case of joint pain and fever is the BEST method.
Unless you want to contribute in increasing resistance levels with mosquitoes (and making it more difficult to treat malaria cases for those who live there), ruin your liver, damage your eyes.
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How about the ‘quick reaction’. I think i have read somewhere on an earlier thread that they sell a kit or something for it. Or best to visit an hospital or so in that case? Thanks.
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Thanks to all guys, I still haven’t decided what to do but hopefully I’ll make up my mind soon…thanks again, s.
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I am not sure about the altitude of the areas you mentioned. Above certain altitudes in northern India malaria does not exist… that having been said google the chinese herb medicine Artemisinin – it is extremely effective but it might be difficult to find..
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Did a bit of research on Artemisinin for a project – developed for anti-malarial by Novartis w/ a Chinese company (NB. – to decrease the risk of developing resistance, Artemisinin is sold in a cocktail marketed as CORATEM) cheap and v. effective used widely in places where there are drug-resistant strains of Malaria. Not sure if it is easily available to individuals. A kit is provided for a self-test and then you take the drug if need be, have not had to use myself yet, but apparently it is v. fast acting with few if any side effects.
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Unless I’m tramping around in the jungle for weeks, next time I go to a Malaria-risk area I’m taking an emergency treatment dosage of anti-malarials and lots and lots of DEET. I used to use Doxycycline but it made me feel real shitty, it’d turn my stomach inside out sap all of my energy. I’d forget to take it and I’d feel absolutely brilliant the next day.
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how about ‘quinine’/’artesunate’ ? In Indonesia, especially in hinterland around Papua, Sulawesi and Borneo, it being a good medicine to prevent malaria. i think u have to wear ‘mosquito net’ before sleep.
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Simone
As mentioned by several people, prevention is key: long lasting impregnated mosquito net, long sleeves and repellent. But it might not be sufficient. If you are going to stay in malaria-infested areas of India for some time you have 2 choices: a) go for prophylaxis and live with the relatively minor side-effects; b) do not take prophylaxis but be extremely vigilant, always have the full course of treatment on you and, in case of fever and/or flu-like symptoms or doubts have a blood test done (one finger prick) and start treating. In India there are health centers and dispensarues everywhere. These days the drug of choice for treatment is Coartem and the course costs about 6/7 USD in Bangladesh. As a physician I recommend chemoprophylaxis for visits of less than a year. For visits longer than a year the possible side effects of chemoprophylaxis have to be balanced against the benefits. But Falciparum malaria kills people and tourists every year.
I lived in the Chittagong Hill Tracts (between Bangladesh and Burma), a highly endemic area for malaria, for the past 3 years and did not take prophylaxis as I have been living in malaria areas for the past 30 years. I was ready to take Coartem if needed. But that was a personal criticable educated choice and you have to assess the risks of infection (urban visits versus jungle and rural areas). Hope this is useful
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Hi Simone!
I spent more than 6 months in South Asia some years ago. I started taking Lariam but a month after that it was TOO strong I had fever, hallucinations and feeling weird. So I decided to stop taking and did not take ANY pills at all. I was lucky. Did not catch Malaria. I guess in Northern India is not THAT BAD. But as I’ve been told Chloroquine helps. If you are going to take for some weeks only it is ok, I guess. I may help! On the other hand, Quinine is also another good choice. Plus, wear always repellent, long sleeves clothes in places with many mosquitoes and have a mosquito net ready! That’s the best! Cheers, Christian from Buenos Aires
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No experience with chloroquine but plenty of experience with chloroform.
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how you doin,
tried lots of maleria tablets but they drive me crazy and make me feel sick, dream…...............
in india i just use deet from the camping shop, but buy the strongest, and also india has a local cream called odamose everywhere, very cheap about 20p a tube, and does the trick, but god knows whats in it. im in delhi at the moment and i’ve not seen one mosquito. wow.
i think i had all the symptoms of maleria and spent 5 days in hospital in varanasi for christmas this year, but unfourtunately trying to talk to the doctors for the truth was hard work and they wont give you an answer, so will take more tests when i reach england in a few days.
i was in same area this year, and i would recommend taking mosi net as i found especially in orissa and calcutta there bad if they exist. you can get in india but there a bit big and i think not impregnable. if i remember correctly mosquito’s were bad in orissa when i was there. many people use electric plug ins in india at the moment, but i dont know how good they are, but there cheap here.
a recent national geographic has article about maleria in calcutta.
take care safe travels
rich.
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Hello there, My father in law is one of the most important researcher in malaria worldwile, his name is Carlos Eduardo Tosta,Brazilian, and he always suggested me NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING, he says that it is way better to get malaria and treat it than to want to prevent it with the very few drugs that can eventually cure it. He told me that especially Lariam shouldn’t be use as a preventive drug because the body get use to it very fast and it is a drug use to cure. I travel since 89 on a regular base in India and never catch it so far. I find diarrheas a much serious probleme if not diagnose accurently. Cheers
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Ciao Simone. I used to take lariam or cloroquine first times I travelled in Africa but when I started to travel a lot and to feel bad cause of the medicines I stopped. Since 10 years don’t take anything when I go to India, Asia but even Africa… cause yes, if you take this things too mutch is even worst than malaria itself. Anycase I heard about one antimalaria tablets called “malarone” that you buy in Swizerland that has the same effect of cloroqine but has less uwanted reactions. If you really want to take something I suggest you to find more informations about it… Some friends of mine tryed it and told me it really did not boder them at all.
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I just came back from Africa and used Malarone for over 3 weeks and did not have any side effects. Its known as the new anti-malarial with minimal to no side effects. There are other options but Malarone seems the least risk. I felt that I’ve could of gone with no anti-malarial, using other precautions such as DEET and bed nets but many health officials there told me not to risk it. Having seen many kids in the hospitals with malaria and in not such great shape I was not about to argue with them. In the future I would consider going with no anti-malarial for various reasons. Personal choice and risk.
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hi simone, i took cloroquine only AFTER i got malaria in africa. i haven’t used any medicine in the first 4-5 days malaria attack. doctors said virus from niger is ressistant. but i had to when malaria became recurrent after one week. just a huge nausea and i got rid of it after 2 days. it never came back :)
hope this is useful, carmen
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Hi Simone, I spent two weeks in Kolkata in May and used Paludrine…. worked great! Combine with garlic pills and deet and you’re garanteed to mosquitoes avoiding you!
good luck and have fun!
Susannah
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Hi Simone, i was in India and Nepal for twelve weeks and took the Malaria medicine every day with no ill effects at all. See a doctor and ask photographers about photography health is for health professionals.
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I’ve been to Southern India (Hyderabad, AP) a couple of times and never bothered with malaria treatment before going there. I ended up getting malaria once (in the 4 months totally I was there). As long as you’re in towns and cities, there’ll be local medical emergency posts everywhere where they’ll stick a needle in your bum, give you a handful of pills and you’ll be up and about in 10 minutes (though you have to take the pills for a few days).
The neem-based oils sound like a good idea. Neem leaves have been used for centuries in India to keep mosquitoes out of the houses. You still see many houses where the entrances are “decorated” with neem leaves. Neem trees are also present nearly everywhere.
BTW, what I was told (and I’m not a scientist, so this could be BS) is that mosquito bites at night result in malaria while mosquito bites received during the day result in another disease (Dengue, IIRC), which is more dangerous and more difficult to treat.
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Simone, almost everything has been said ;-) (in areas not that mosqito-prone, I take a pack – 12 tablets – of Malarone for emergencies, i.e. after seeking medical advice. When it’s a really difficult malaria situation, like central Africa, I take Malarone each day I’m there, plus seven days after leaving the region. Workend fine so far.)
But wanted to point out another thing: In preventing mosquito bites in the first place, wear long trousers and long sleeved shirts but be aware that the beasts will get thru most light clothing you usually wear in the tropics – a linen trouser and a t-shirt offer just zero protection. So, I usually switch to mosquito-proof trekking gear. I find Fjaelljraeven – a swedish outdoor company, and they have lots of mosquitos up there – and its G1000 fabric the best. The bugs just won’t get thru. Other companies offer chemically treated fabric – “NoSquito” beeing one brand, if I remember correctly – but I fear that the built-in repellent will wash out too early.
So I usually pack the trekking pants/shirts, plus I’m using Permetrin to “impregnate” normal clothing against mosquitos. Also, wearing a hat and, if you want to be on the safe side, high-cut desert/jungle boots is not a bad idea.
(Because, as someone mentioned before, Malaria is just one of the bad things you might acquire…)
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Thanks a lot everyone, I decided I’ll take clorochine and use all the possible prevention methods. We’ll see what happens. Thanks again! Simone
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Hi,
thank you for the good advice over here. Actually I will be leaving for India in january, and staying for a fairly long time. I would need a bit of help in choosing…
I do not want to take prevention drugs, but better repellent, nets and a ‘malaria kit’, containing a way to check if you have malaria and enought drugs to keep you up till you reach the hospital. Can you advice on any such kit (possibly containing either Malarone or Coartem as they seems to be good).
Thank you very much,
Alex
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As someone who grew up in Ghana, West Africa taking chloroquine for much of my life, I would recommend Malarone. It is expensive compared to the other options but the most reliable and requires the least hassle with the mildest side effects.
I have also taken: quinine, paludrine, halafan, primaquine and Lariam in my lifetime. I have had malaria more times then I can remember with 2 very serious cases. I grew up using mosquito nets and burning mosquito coils and lathering on the DEET before going outside.
Sorry to the posters above but, mosquito nets, repellent, and treated clothing will not prevent all bites. You will get bit. The malaria prophylaxis treatments are designed to prevent you from getting malaria from the one bite you can’t avoid. Think about it, when is the last time you remembered to put mosquito repellent on your butt before using an outhouse style toilet? Anyone who’s done travel in the third world knows outhouses are prime breeding grounds for mosquitoes.
India now has a lot of chloroquine resistant malaria removing that option. I took doxycycline for 4 weeks in Uganda with no problems. The added advantage it that it also protects you from other stomach ailments so it makes eating street food a little less dangerous.
I have taken Lariam/Mefloquine. STAY AWAY FROM IT!!! It is very dangerous. I had to take for 3 summers in a row on trips to chloroquine-resistant countries (S.Africa, Mozambique & Vanuatu). It causes accelerated hair loss in many men and some women. It can cause outright dementia in some cases. Even docs cannot predict the side effects you may have on Lariam. If you have ANY family history of emotional or mental disorders or even a tendency toward them, you are in for a VERY rough time.
My reaction was to go from a full head of thick hair at 19 to mostly bald at 22. Hair loss in my extended family would normally occur at 35. I also had terrible nightmares after every dose of Lariam.
The British Medical Journal (31 August 1996, 313:13) found that “About 0.7% (1 in 140) travelers taking mefloquine can expect to have a neuropsychiatric adverse event unpleasant enough to temporarily prevent them from carrying out their day to day activities. Possible adverse effects listed by Hoffmann-La Roche’s product literature include “convulsions, depression, hallucinations, psychotic or paranoid reactions, agitation, aggression, confusion or forgetfulness.” There are several very large class action lawsuits against Hoffmann-La Roche for concealing the severity and frequency of serious side effects with Lariam.
This site has the best information on malaria in India on the web: http://www.malariasite.com/ Here is the page that deals specifically with chemoprophylaxis: http://www.malariasite.com/malaria/Prophylaxis.htm
My recommendations are:
1. Take Malarone for chemoprophylaxis.
2. Definitely use a treated mosquito or No-See-Um net. Either, buy one the day you arrive or get one like this: http://www.travelhealthhelp.com/nets7.html
3. Definitely use mosquito repellent with high DEET content. -I always take a few of these along: Deep Woods Off 1 oz pump-spray (98% DEET) http://www.offprotects.com/sportsman.aspx I have also used this: http://www.campmor.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?productId=1065&memberId=12500226
4. If you travel very light, make sure you pre-treat your main outfits with permethrin or deltamethrin. Here is a good one: http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0031692516902a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnPage=search-results1.jsp&QueryText=permethrin&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=permethrin&noImage=0
Remember, all of the above ONLY applies to foreigners visiting an area with know malaria problems. Locals are advised to NOT take chemoprophylaxis and only treat actual outbreaks. They already have some immunity, you don’t. Your reaction to an outbreak will ALWAYS be more severe, especially if you are not on chemoprophylaxis.
Good luck with your trip. Stay healthy, stay strong. -Andrés
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