http://www.lightstalkers.org/posts/rights_grab__national_geographic_is_no_better_than_the_others An entire Lightstalkers thread via RSS/XML. en-us Well, it looks like not even National Geographic is NOT above the fold when it comes to the all too common rights grab. In the 'Your Shot' part of the magazine, where there is no prize except publication in the magazine, if you submit a photo they take worldwide, royalty-free and perpetual license. Nice of them, no? From the rules: 'you grant to National Geographic Society and its subsidiaries and licensees (the "NGS") a royalty-free, worldwide, perpetual license to display, distribute and reproduce the Photograph, in whole or in part, in any medium now existing or subsequently developed for editorial purposes without further review or participation from you.' For more information: http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/yourshot/rules.html Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:55:03 +0000 http://www.lightstalkers.org/posts/rights_grab__national_geographic_is_no_better_than_the_others charlie,write to them and kick up a fuss.these sort of clauses are often inserted by the suits and bean counters,and are sometimes modified if their greed and unfairness are pointed out to the editorial staff. Sat, 14 Oct 2006 09:59:20 +0000 http://www.lightstalkers.org/posts/rights_grab__national_geographic_is_no_better_than_the_others#44289 Charlie, if you decide to write to them, add me there too. i'm just furious! any others willing to sign such a complaint? Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:45:55 +0000 http://www.lightstalkers.org/posts/rights_grab__national_geographic_is_no_better_than_the_others#44291 http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/newswire/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003252575 They seem to know how to fend off this sort of thing. In my opinion all this "yourshot" and "i report" stuff on CNN is for amatuers that do not make their living at photography and reporting. Right? I doubt any of them would survive long if given an assignment from either of these organizations. Give Chris Johns a call at NGS. I have heard he is a pretty fair person. If not, see if you're good enough to be published in the magazine. Sat, 14 Oct 2006 15:03:02 +0000 http://www.lightstalkers.org/posts/rights_grab__national_geographic_is_no_better_than_the_others#44310 Paul, i see it as a matter of principle. if somebody at NG bothered to write all that crap about them getting full rights, whether it's about amateurs or not, people making a living out of this or not, those guys planed to make a buck out of this. And that's just pathetic, especially coming from a publication who claims high standards and professionalism. If mighty NG goes so low, damn' it, what can be expected from anybody else. same goes for cnn. i'm not sure i understood your last sentence, about Charlie being good enough, etc. does that have anything to do with the issue here? Sun, 15 Oct 2006 03:10:31 +0000 http://www.lightstalkers.org/posts/rights_grab__national_geographic_is_no_better_than_the_others#44349 NG has been screwing freelancers for awhile now. In my honest opinion to work with them, one has to make an iron-clad contract and then still that is no guarantee because the courts seem to for some reason keep finding in NG's favor during infringement trials. </br> What Charlie posts doesn't surprise me at all coming from NG and they should always be called on it. Sun, 15 Oct 2006 07:50:37 +0000 http://www.lightstalkers.org/posts/rights_grab__national_geographic_is_no_better_than_the_others#44361 Thanks for coming to my defense, G. I agree with you. In the meantime if anyone else wants to write National Geographic, this is one of the email addresses I got from their web site: ngsforum@nationalgeographic.com Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:07:03 +0000 http://www.lightstalkers.org/posts/rights_grab__national_geographic_is_no_better_than_the_others#44388 Thanks for the alert, Charlie, and the email address. Sun, 15 Oct 2006 16:19:21 +0000 http://www.lightstalkers.org/posts/rights_grab__national_geographic_is_no_better_than_the_others#44391