ok. its for a noble cause. i will be there with you all
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Hi,
Count me in, in whatever form is necessary. Name number and any other assistance I can offer, although this looks doubtful at this point, an early show of force from our end may help to eliminate any future attempts at passing this or similar legislation.
Jeremy
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I’m in.
Liam Maloney
Photographer
Montreal, QC, Canada
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Ladies and gentlemen, let’s get this ball rolling!
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let’s form like Voltron!
I’m down.
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Ok I still have to iron some things out,but I suppose we can start forming a “cell” or whatever this week. Sion is out of touch mostly this week, but basically we just want to get everyone’s name and contact data, bascailly like a petition. I will ask Shinji about the best way to do this.
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Sign me up…and everybody get your heads round using metadata…cos you’re gonna need it.
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Sion, metadata – that’s file info, right? I make sure all my files have the fields filled, particularly the © field. I wonder about organizing metadata for web pages so that they’ll get picked up by search engines more effectively. Anyone have any good pointers on that, on how to equip one’s pages with good metadata tags?
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The Orphan Works Bill is disgusting. I’m onboard.
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Paul, for Metatags, start here: http://www.theemiratesnetwork.com/computers/webmaster/metatag1.htm
Frankly, I put in all the appropriate tags, and I went to the Yahoo and gmail search engine pages to get “crawled” or whatever they call it, and if you google my name you still wont find my site directly unless you add qualifying words. Also i fyou google dark horse images, you get another guy at dark horse films or something, so I still havent figured this one out. The lightstalkers citations come up all the time right at the front. So Shinji got it figured out.
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Turns out I fill up the Google front page when I search my name. I must be doing something right. I’ll check out that link in any case. Cheers, Paul
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Well you want to be sure that each page of your site has a name and doesnt appear as “unidentified content” or whatever it is the thing reads. Plus the metatags will make it easier for search engines to find you if you do it right. Or so I have been told
But with a name like Treacy, well you are bound to do well. Now Jon on the other hand means that I am forever doomed to be buried by Yes singer Jon Anderson’s voluminous citations on the web. Dark Horse doesnt help much either . But I know it can be fixed.
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Hey Jon,
I don’t have a ton of time but this is an enormous issue for us all, so I’ll do what I can.
Thank you very much for all the work you’re doing on our behalf !!
-Art
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I dont think time will be a problem. I think all we ahve to do is get everyone to “sign up” and we present ourselves as yet another concerned group, a professional body. We cannot present ourselves as Lightstalkers, but perhaps as a group within that umbrella. Have to discuss with boys upstairs. But dont worry Art. I think you just got to give a name and contact, like a petition.
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I’m in. Thanks organizing this.
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Are these issue only for USA citizens or for all in the world? I don´t know how can I help but if I can tell me. I think some of my father work have this nick name of orphan work in foreign countries. Saludos
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Hello evryone
I made a quick research on that “Orphan Works amendment”. It looks like a very important matter but I don’t get all the implication. Can somebody explain it quickly ?
I would like to know more in order to articulate my thought on this subject.
Thank you
Marc-André
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Parents of the world unite!!! If you need my signature for this (but not for checks)...
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Happy to add my name to any petition against this proposed legislation.
Best,
Stuart
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ALI RIZA KUTLUDOCUMENTARY PHOTOGRAPHERTORONTO, CANADA
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Hi Hernan and Marc, In a nutshell, and as I understand it, US Orphan Works Copyright Legislation that should become a bill soon can be a considered a license to infringe on copyright owners all over the globe. This unfair to creative artists legislation can be devastating to Creative Artists everywhere and is a challenge for other countries of the world to follow. US corporations are interested in acquiring for marketable sales a huge International Royalty Free Market that can result from the Orphan Works Amendment. Orphan Works Amendment Legislation seeks to identify artworks from the Internet and real places that do not have the creator or owners name attached. The work would then be at risk to be identified as an “Orphan Work” and consequently be dumped into the Royalty Free Market without the owners consent if there is no way to be able to identify or locate the copyright owner. This would be retroactive and so it is possible that even if your photographs are not digitalized they could easily be scanned and even if your name is attached to an original an infringer would face little or no penalty if caught. The Orphan Works Amendment would gut the US 1976 Copyright Act which now allows the artwork to be protected through copyright laws from the moment of it’s creation without having to register with the Copyright Office. The Orphan Works Amendment is US Legislation but the International Community will be drastically and negatively effected as well because if Hernan’s or Marc’s photos end up on the Internet without credit, they could be more easily stolen due to proposed elimination or reduction of infringement penalties…there would be little you could do to prevent it or stop it. After it has been tagged an “Orphan Work” it can be used without your consent or knowledge as it will be dumped into USA’s Royalty Free market for use with no or little compensation to you if you found out. Then big Internet companies, like Google, could end up acquiring your “Orphan Works” on their Royalty Free Sites and for a membership fee people can “buy” your photographs because you will have lost the exclusive licensing rights that were rightfully yours to begin with. According to the following links, as I understand, the US Orphan Works Legislation will be in violation of the Article 5(2) of the International
BERNE CONVENTION FOR THE PROTECTION OF LITERARY AND ARTISTIC WORKS
http://www.illustratorspartnership.org/01_topics/article.php?searchterm=00197
http://www.law.cornell.edu/treaties/berne/overview.html
http://www.illustratorspartnership.org/01_topics/article.php?searchterm=00196
http://www.illustratorspartnership.org/01_topics/article.php?searchterm=00197Also see these related links:
LINKS:
(http://www.legi-internet.ro/berna.htm) and the three-step TRIPs test of
Article 13 of the International Agreement on Trade-Related Aspects of Intellectual
Property Rights (TRIPs). The US is one of the countries of the Berne Union and
a member of TRIPs along with most International countries that recognize the
Creative Authorships of their citizens.
Here is an SAA Call to Action link that explains the Orphan Works Legislation from
the Photographers copyright perspective: http://orphanworks.blogspot.com/
The Stock Asylum -An Orphan Works Opposition Link:
http://www.stockasylum.com/ow.htm
Here is a link to the one of the IPA (Illustrators Partnership of America-which I belong to)
FILINGS ON U.S. COPYRIGHT OFFICE ORPHAN WORK STUDY
3.24.05 IPA Comment
Joined by 42 Arts Organizations in the U.S. and internationally, and over 2,000 artists
http://www.copyright.gov/orphan/comments/OW0660-Holland-Turner.pdf
If you scroll down the PDF you will see other International Members of the
Creative Community that have also signed on in protest.
Here is the International list that signed on with IPA to protest the Legislation.
These are mostly illustration trade groups:
Arts Organizations
UNITED STATES
Illustrators Partnership of America (IPA)l
American Institute of Architects (AIA)
American Society of Architectural Illustrators (ASAI)
Artists Rights Society New York (ARSNY)
Association of Medical Illustrators (AMI)
Association of Science Fiction and Fantasy Artists (ASFA)
Guild of Natural Science Illustrators (GNSI)
National Cartoonists Society (NCS)
Pittsburgh Society of Illustrators
San Francisco Society of Illustrators (SFSI)
Society of Children’s Book Writers & Illustrators (SCBWI)
ITALY
Associazione Illustratori / Italian Society of Illustrators
JAPAN
Japan Architectural Renderers Association (JARA)
KOREA
Korean Architectural Perspectivists Association (KAPA)
MEXICO
Ilustracion Mexico / Mexican Society of Illustrators
THE NETHERLANDS
Association of Dutch Designers
NORWAY
KOPINOR The Reproduction Rights Organisation of Norway
Grafill
SPAIN
Federaciòn de Asociaciones de Ilustradores Profesionales
(Federation of Spanish Illustration Societies)
Madrid Professional Illustrators Association (APIM)
Catalunya Professional Illustrators Association (APIC)
Valencia Professional Illustrators Association (APIV)
Galicia Professional Illustrators Association (AGPI)
Pais Vasco Professional Illustrators Association (APIE-EIEP)
SWEDEN
Svenska Tecknare / The Association of Swedish Illustrators
UNITED KINGDOM
The Association of Illustrators (AOI)
Society of Architectural Illustrators (SAI)
Here are a list of International Photography Organizations and others that have
assembled Orphan Rights Legislation opposition:
Advertising Photographers of America-APA National
Association of Photographers-AOP
American Society of Media Photographers-ASMP
American Society of Picture Professionals-ASPP
Australian Commercial and Media Photographers
British Association of Picture Libraries & Agencies-BAPLA
Coordination of European Agencies Press Stock-CEPIC
Editorial Photographers
National Press Photographers Association
North American Nature Photography Association-NANPA
Picture Archive Council of America-PACA
Professional Photographers of America
Society for Photographic Education
Stock Artists Alliance-SAA
Virtual Resources Association
White House News Photographers Association
American Institute of Graphic Arts-AIGA
Graphic Arts Guild-GAG
Art Directors Club-ADC
Illustration Partnership of America-IPA
There are other Creative Artist organizations that have signed up
for opposition as well that I don’t have a list of but I believe that you
who respond here will be very significant and should represent in numbers
internationally based photographers very well.
Hope this helps.
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FROM THE ILLUSTRATORS’ PARTNERSHIPApril 15,2006 The Senate hearings on Orphan Works have shown that artists and photographers are united in opposing this bad amendment. We went to Washington to say that this proposal is either poorly conceived or something other than what it appears to be: You don’t need to expose everybody’s work to abuse by anybody for any purpose in order to make abandoned work available to some people for proper use. You don’t maintain law and order by making everything legal. Senator Patrick Leahy, Democrat of Vermont, seems to get this. He asked the relevant questions of the Copyright Office, questions that will need to be asked again and again if this proposed amendment is to be tempered or defeated. We all owe our thanks to Senator Leahy and his staff for contacting IPA and giving artists the chance to be heard. His staff may not appreciate a lot of thank you letters clogging their fax machines, but some snail mail of appreciation might be a nice change of pace for them: Senator Patrick Leahy 433 Russell Senate Office Bldg United States Senate Washington, DC 20510Chairman Hatch ended the hearings by calling for more hearings. And he asked the Copyright Office to come back with a more precise definition of “good faith, reasonably diligent search.” That’s a start, but only a start. We want to thank all of you for the many letters you’ve written to Washington. This effort is not over by a long shot, but artists have now had our voices heard from the outset – and heard at the highest level. Cynthia Turner and I may have had the privilege of delivering the message, but it wasn’t we who went to Washington last week; it was all of you. -Brad Holland and Cynthia Turner, for the Board of the Illustrators’ Partnership For additional information about Orphan Works developments, go to the IPA Orphan Works Resource Page for Artists
http://www.illustratorspartnership.org/01_topics/article.php?searchterm=0018 Or see IPA Forums: “Free Culture-The Copy Left Is Not Right.” You may post responses or ask questions on these forums. First-time users will be asked to register. You do not need to be an IPA member to use the IPA public Town Hall Forums. Please post or forward this email in its entirety to any interested party
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This quote is from the International Federation of Reproduction Rights Organizations (IFRRO):
“Digitisation is an act of reproduction subject to the authorisation of the copyright holder…
exceptions have been introduced in favour (sic) of libraries and archives that allow these
institutions to reproduce works without prior consent of the rightsholders, mainly for
preservation purposes. These exceptions do not cover and should not be extended to cover
reproductions on a mass scale, which would clearly conflict with the normal exploitation
of works and prejudice the legitimate interests of the copyrightholders, and would thus
not pass the three step test of the Berne Convention and Article 5.5 of the Directive200/l29
(p.2, emphasis added).” http://www.ifrro.org/show.aspx?pageid=home:
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Thank you Gayle.
With these informations I understand better the stakes connected to this amendment. Our labor and creative work, often the result of risk taken for photojournalist, but always the result of a creative process, whatever the type of illustration or images is something worth to protect.
Count me in
I will follow this topic very carefully.
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You are very welcome, Marc. Thank you! Best, Gayle
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Cell sounds like a good idea Jon. Add my name please.
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John and Sion,
Sign me up.
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Hey Jon, wow this is some serious crap. Count me in.
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I’m in…...! I would love to be involved
Patrick
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Definitely count me in and let me know if I can help any further. Allen
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I’m in, whatever it takes for however long. I’ll be damned if this sort of evil takes root.
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it looks like i’m in good company, need i say add my name to the list? beyond that let me know how i can help.
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I think what we are going to do is create a list on a separate thread, invite everyone to write in the appropriate data adn then cut and paste that to a word document, arrange it,a nd use that as a kind of roll call/petition, whateever. So hold on, I am waiting to hear from a few `people how to manage this thing and waht to call it.
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hey guys – add me to the list please :)
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Hi,
Please add me as well. Thanks
Alicia
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Sign me on please, and thanks for your hard work on this.
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appreciate you efforts.. I am in too..
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I’m in too please add me to the list and let me know whatever info you require
Simon Larbalestier
Photographer
United Kingdom
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hi jon, you can count me in on this as well, this is disgusting and frightning, so i’ll gladly put my name under this list. Cheers for all your hard work on this.
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I’m deleriously away from the world at the moment…but, as you know jon, count me to the list…You can email if you need more personal info..:
Bob Black
Photographer/Writer
Toronto, Canada
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Please add my name to the list. Mark Chilvers Photographer London, UK
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please add my name to list and thanks for the efforts. Morag Photojournalist UK
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Please add my name to the list also. Nathan Shanahan Photographer Tokyo, Japan
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noble cause!!! go for it!!! add me plis!!
Dave Coll Blanco
Freelance Photographer
Tokyo,Japan
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Please add:
Mark Manger
Photographer
Denver, Colorado
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Einat Bar Documentary Photographer/ Photo Retoucher Brooklyn, NY USA
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Stephen Voss Photojournalist Washington,DC USA
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Jacquelyn Martin Photojournalist Birmingham, AL USA
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Luis Andrade Photographer and writer Philadelphia, PA USA
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Wendy Marijnissen Photographer Antwerpen, Belgium
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Ana Pimsler Photojournalist Alexandria, VA
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Erin Siegal Photographer Brooklyn, New York thank you, Jon!
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Andrew Kornylak Photographer Atlanta, Georgia, USA
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Mark Seager Photographer London United Kingdom
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Hi Jon!
Please add:
Spencer Mandell
Photojournalist
New York, NY
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William B. Plowman Photojournalist Boston, MA USA
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Reme Campos Photographer London United Kingdom
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Mike Fox Photojournalist San Francisco USA
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Stefan Zaklin Photographer Dubai United Arab Emirates
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Benjamin Lowy Photographer New York USA
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Stuart Freedman Photographer London UK
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Jon, Gayle, all, Please use all or part of that letter as you see fit. Credit must be given where credit is due though: a lot of the points made are Sion’s, I added the stuff about the Constitution. The genealogy of it can be found in Sion’s orignal thread if need be. Mike
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Frans Poptie Photographer/Writer Bangkok Thailand
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Tiane Doan na Champassak Photographer Paris France
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Walter Astrada Photojournalist Spain
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Walter Astrada Photojournalist Spain
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Ron Haviv Photojournalist New York USA
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Alex Reshuan Photographer Miami USA
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Gigi Cohen Photographer New York USA
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Kenneth Dickerman Photographer Chicago USA
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Max Whittaker Photojournalist Sacramento, CA USA
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Mark Tomalty Photographer Montreal Canada
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Mark Tomalty Photographer Montreal Canada
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Martin Fuchs Photojournalist Austria
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Hector Emanuel photographer Washington DC USA
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jason hobbs photographer london england
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Bryan Denton Photographer Amman Jordan
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Johan Sjöholm Freelance Photographer/Photo Journalist Trollhättan Sweden
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Seth Butler Photographer Barnard, VT USA
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Che Chapman Photojournalist Queensland Australia
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Timothy Fadek Photographer New York, NY USA
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Barrie Watts Photographer North Wales United Kingdom
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Barrie Watts Photographer North Wales United Kingdom
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Barrie Watts Photographer North Wales United Kingdom
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Erica Mcdonald Photographer United States of America
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Barrie once is enough.
Bloody hell I just finished my dinner & checked my mail 38 messages.
I have never signed a petition before & this is a great turnout.
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John Francis Peters Photographer Brooklyn, NY
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Hi – I did sign up previously but dont see my name, so signing again!
thanks for the work you are putting in
Morag
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OK, thanks, Morag! Sorry about that.
I will add your signature right now.
Gayle
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Martin Beaulieu Photographer Montreal, Que. Canada
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John Loomis Photographer Miami, FL, USA
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Mark Murrmann Photographer Ann Arbor, MI USA
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Scott Eells Photographer New Delhi, India
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Dadna Tal Photographer New York – Tel Aviv
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Rene Edde Photographer Chicago, IL
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Igor Zusev Photographer New York
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igor
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Marc Kelly Photographer Brooklyn, NY USA
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Antrim Caskey photojournalist new york, ny
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Keith Sirchio Photographer Brooklyn, NY
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Jessica Rinaldi Photographer Boston, MA USA
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Jim O’Connell Photographer Tokyo, Japan
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Marc Steiner Photographer Union Beach,NJ USA
Thanks everyone! Let’s stop this from passing!
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Natasha Mhatre Nature Photographer and Graduate student, Bangalore, India
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Hey Jon, Add me to the list. I visit Quisqueya quite often since I have family there and I love to shoot there as well perhaps our paths may cross. Gracias~
Elizabeth Borda
Student
New York, USA
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Shamshahrin Shamsudin Photojournalist Kuala Lumpur, MALAYSIA
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Shamshahrin Shamsudin Photojournalist Kuala Lumpur, MALAYSIA
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Thomas Boggan Photographer Phoenix, Ariz. USA
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Sion Touhig Photographer/Videographer London United Kingdom
Just a quick note regarding a comment I made earlier and in answer to Pauls question…metadata…the Orphan Works legislation
rests on the assumption that the original copyright holder is hard or impossible to find, and that therefore the person ripping
off the work by intent or default is only supposed to demonstrate they made ‘reasonable steps’ to find the copyright holder.
This is why (if you dont do it already) photographers should be paying close attention to embedding IPTC and EXIF metadata in
every file they transmit, display or store on the Web. It makes it easier to track down, and easier to police mi |
