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New Soundslides: Any Opinions?

Soundslides now has greater capacity to reproduce camera movement and so on — has anyone had a chance to try out the new version and what do you think of it so far?

by Jon Anderson at Thu Jun 05 13:56:14 UTC 2008 (ed. Jun 11 2008) Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic | Bookmark this | Digg this |

Previously the best multimedia slide shows, such as can be seen at http://www.mediastorm.org could only be achieved using Final Cut Pro but this new incarnation of soundslides can achieve similar results, seems to me. Not counting video, that is.

by Paul Treacy | 05 Jun 2008 15:06 (ed. Jun 5 2008) | New York City, United States |
The pan-and-zoom stuff (“Ken Burns effect”) is a nice addition, but it doesn’t change the basic equation for Soundslides. The program was designed to be simple, and to keep your presentation simple, and these are great virtues. At the end of the day, the most important component to a Soundslides (or Mediastorm) presentation is the audio, and photographers tend to forget that.

by Preston Merchant | 05 Jun 2008 15:06 | New York, United States |
john,

i think we have talked about this before,so ignore me if i am repeating myself.

the best programme for assembling slideshows is adobe after effects. when you are finished,just dump the whole thing into fcp(i guess you can also drop a completed piece into soundslides,but i never tried),and fine tune the music.

if you want inspiration,i would look at films,not other slideshows,and see how a good editor works to achieve different moods etc.

as for the ken burns effect,i wouldn’t bother myself,or use it very sparingly and only if the material absolutely demands it.

and preston is correct,badly mixed or innappropriate music/voiceover is a killer.you have to experiment,try different things,and hope for a visit from the random gods of chance.(you know the very famous scene in kubricks 2001?the one with ’thus sprake zarathrusta as the soundtrack?when he was editing it,that piece of music just happened to be on the radio,and he noticed how it worked with the images,so used it)

by Michael Bowring | 05 Jun 2008 16:06 | Belgrade, Serbia |
“At the end of the day, the most important component to a Soundslides (or Mediastorm) presentation is the audio, and photographers tend to forget that.”

Word.

by Andy Levin | 05 Jun 2008 21:06 | New Orleans, United States |
It’s interesting that this has come up.
I am working on a slideshow as I write this. I’ve been playing around with it for the past month and the nice thing is that once the images are loaded you can change the timing for the images, but, if you change the timing on one then you have to move all the images and it’s very difficult to drag the cursor back and forth. This is if you decide to add audio.

How would one send this out to a magazine?
In the folder it creates sub-folders with the images and a file called index.html.
Do you put that on a CD and send the whole thing to a magazine explaining how to open up the slideshow?

by Srinivas Kuruganti | 05 Jun 2008 22:06 (ed. Jun 5 2008) | Harlem, NY, United States |
Srinivas,

You touched on my only disappointment with Soundslides – there really isn’t a good way (to my knowledge) to feature a soundslides piece off-line. The swf file requires an internet browser window for display, and Soundslides doesn’t create a stand-alone file.

The best way to showcase these slideshows is online – I’ve sent links to folks.

hope this helps.

by William Widmer | 05 Jun 2008 22:06 | San Francisco, CA, United States |
So, would I have to upload to my site and then send the link out?
Sorry, I know this sounds really basic but…

by Srinivas Kuruganti | 05 Jun 2008 22:06 | Harlem, NY, United States |
you don’t have to upload anything, a link is a link doesn’t matter if it’s online, a local network or on a cd. you could do a ‘read me first’ html file with a link or set soundslides to automatically open when the html file is open.

by Ed Leveckis | 05 Jun 2008 22:06 | New York, United States |
Thanks. I’ll try that.
Would I be able to put this on my gallery page on LS?

by Srinivas Kuruganti | 05 Jun 2008 22:06 (ed. Jun 5 2008) | Harlem, NY, United States |
Fotomagico is another app to look into for similar ease of use but it exports out to a myriad of formats as well as a stand alone player.

http://www.boinx.com/fotomagico/overview/

by Nayan Sthankiya | 05 Jun 2008 23:06 | Vancouver, Canada |
You are forgetting some really important about soundslides: You can not manage really well issues like sound, I mean sync sounds with images, quotes from the interviewed. Now, I am using Adobe Premiere for do my slides with sound, like ma cuser does with Final Cut

by Hugo Infante | 05 Jun 2008 23:06 | Santiago, Chile |
Srinivas,

You could also just output your Soundslides project to a QuickTime movie and put that on a CD. I was having this issue at a paper I worked at where readers wanted copies of the audio slide shows as a video. Thankfully there’s now a plug-in to help you do this. It has it’s limitations though. Here’s a link to the SoundSlides documentation for this:

http://www2.soundslides.com/support/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=41

When I’ve sent out projects on CD I either pull the index page out of the “ready_to_publish” folder and link it to the files in its folder. Requires some understanding of HTML. Then I title that index page something like “click_here_photostory” For mulitple projects I make an HTML index page with simple links to each “ready_to_publish” (which you’ll want to rename) folder, that way you don’t have to mess with the code for each slideshow HTML document.

by Silas Crews | 06 Jun 2008 10:06 | Amsterdam, Netherlands |
Jon,

going back to your question: i just upgraded my SS version to the new Plus to take advantage of one new feature that i wanted/needed for projects i’m working on…and that’s the full screen playback. another feature that i like is the multiple image import (naturally!).

as for the CD question: i never had any problems from sending my SS shows to editors. i just add a “Read This First” file to the CD. most editors i deal with know Soundslides…it’s easy, fast and super-fast to learn and does the job.

keep well,

t.

by Tewfic El-Sawy | 06 Jun 2008 13:06 | New York City, United States |
Hi Silas,

Thanks.
I forgot I could do that.
I think it’s a cleaner format to send out. It creates less work for editors.

by Srinivas Kuruganti | 06 Jun 2008 14:06 (ed. Jun 6 2008) | Harlem, NY, United States |
So, I’ve created a slide show using Soundslides Plus.

I’ve saved it, exported it and then it created a folder called “publish to web” which has the file index.html. How can I make a quicktime movie from this?

Any ideas?

by Srinivas Kuruganti | 06 Jun 2008 17:06 | Harlem, NY, United States |
i guess you need to buy the plug-in to convert the SS to QT.

http://www2.soundslides.com/support/index.php?pg=kb.page&id=41

by Tewfic El-Sawy | 06 Jun 2008 17:06 | New York City, United States |
Just get the video plugin. It’s great but it may not work with the latest version. It generates a QT movie.

by Paul Treacy | 06 Jun 2008 17:06 | New York City, United States |
Thanks!

by Srinivas Kuruganti | 06 Jun 2008 18:06 | Harlem, NY, United States |
Srinivas, Tewfic et all

There is no need to create a “Read me file” to a CD containing a Soundslides presentation. You can add a piece of code to the index page that tells the index page to open automatically in a browser when the CD is inserted.

I had this done for CD’s I sent out a long time ago. No need for any plug-in or read me intro, the CD will open and play auto as long as the viewer has a browser.

If you want I can see if I can work out what the code is and post it up here.

But…why would you send a CD when you can just send a link to the presentation online, assuming you have a website or blog.

by Mark Seager | 06 Jun 2008 18:06 | London, United Kingdom |
It would take a while to load the slide show on my site and I just thought it would be easier to send a CD with an intro letter.

Is there any chance you might be able post the code to auto play the slideshow.

Would make life much simpler.

Thanks.

by Srinivas Kuruganti | 06 Jun 2008 19:06 (ed. Jun 6 2008) | Harlem, NY, United States |
hi Mark,

i agree. but as you well know, photo editors will be photo editors. if you do find the code, it’ll be great. thanks.

by Tewfic El-Sawy | 06 Jun 2008 19:06 | New York City, United States |
Hi Tewfic, Srinivas

Sorry for the delay in replying. I get no notification when a reply is posted on a thread.

I will take a look and see if I can work out the code and post it here.

How are you Tewfic? I trust your well.

by Mark Seager | 09 Jun 2008 10:06 | London, United Kingdom |
i enjoy the blog feature with full screen support, one can provide tiny little images to keep site design slim and large files are just a click of a button away.

by s. b. ramin | 09 Jun 2008 12:06 | Vancouver, Canada |
Well it looks like I may have to resort to Final Cut. The first one of these I did, I managed by working with the Mac program iMovie, I guess, and then converting it to play in Flash. worked well, though it is clumsy. Synching sound and imagery, however, was a crucial capacity of that program. nonetheless, as I have argued on other threads, it seems to me that if we are to use our images in these formats then we have to think more along “filmic” lines and that means not just the judicious use of sound, but also of camera movement. There is a kinetic aspect to these things that cannot be ignored.

by Jon Anderson | 09 Jun 2008 16:06 | Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic |
Jon…i looked at final cut but it’s too complicated for me; steep leaning curve etc. your point about a kinetic aspect is well taken…i also read somewhere that nan goldin describes her multimedia stuff as ‘a film in stills’. something to keep in mind.

cheers,
t.

by Tewfic El-Sawy | 09 Jun 2008 19:06 | New York City, United States |
Thanks Mark,

I am eager to send this project out and would love to see if this code works.
By the way, I am going to be in London on Thursday and will be there for a few weeks.

Do you have any time to meet up?

Srinivas

by Srinivas Kuruganti | 10 Jun 2008 02:06 | Harlem, NY, United States |
Does Final Cut Express work, or do I need to get the full version of Final Cut Pro if I choose something other than soundslides?

by Tom Leininger | 10 Jun 2008 06:06 | Denton, TX, United States |
so does that mean that the only program in which you can sinc pics and sound is Final Cut??

by Jake Nowakowski | 11 Jun 2008 00:06 | Cairns, Australia |
The autorun code is a great idea Mark. I’ve always relied on photo editors to figure it out, which I know is not always a safe bet. There are tons of tutorials on the web about autorun programs. Here’s a link that looks promising although I’ve not tried it out yet.

http://www.ezau.com/latest/articles/autorun.shtml

by Silas Crews | 11 Jun 2008 06:06 | Amsterdam, Netherlands |
i understand that OSX has long disabled CD auto-run capabilities. so the code may work with PCs but not macs.

by Tewfic El-Sawy | 11 Jun 2008 11:06 | New York City, United States |
Thanks Silas

Just had a look at the link. Yes that is exactly how to do it. Although I don’t think you need to download the software to make an HTML file autorun. You just type that into the code. Obviously you need a program that allows you to to ammend the code.
I use Dreamweaver but you can also do it in Adobe Go live. Although I belive Adobe has bought Macromedia who created Dreamweaver and has discontinued Go Live to concentrate on Dreamweaver.

by Mark Seager | 11 Jun 2008 12:06 | London, United Kingdom |
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