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Non-Photography Day
A call to not document a memorable day, placed on a journalistic forum?
Or should it been seen as a day of?
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well… nonphotography people, please respect my life.
regards. h.l.s.
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Becca, I read through the non-photography day site and really found nothing there to entice me to put down my cameras for a day. Photography is not simply about documenting and recording the beautiful things we come accross. The medium for many is a way to tell stories that no one would ever hear otherwise, it is a means of education and expanded understanding, a chance to see the other side through someone elses eyes. These are things that I hope we never stop doing, not even for a day.
Interesting that you’ve lived in Tokyo for 6 months now yet your able to put “the Japanese” into a neat little box of conformist sheep.
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I already sent an email saying that I would absolutely not be laying down my cameras. This is daft in the extreme.
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That’s a Tuesday. I have a rule that Tuesdays MUST be documented. Tuesday is just not respected anymore. Could we move it to a Thursday? Please sign up to my new web based movement www.respecttuesday/trivial.org
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I’ll be celebrating Don’t-Tell-Me-What-To-Do Day on July 17th.
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Thank you Becca. Easily the funniest post i’ve read in a long time…
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Becca this is obviously not the correct website to post that kind of stuff. Many of us can spend 10 days without taking any pictures and start working on the 11th one because subject and photographer have a better understanding of each other. All I wanna say is that LS members are for the majority inclined into contemplation. If you wanna educate some of your fellows, choose another target. Bye.
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“Please respect non-photograpy day on 17th July 2007 and leave your camera at home.”
Not THIS crap again. It was a stupid idea once before and its a stupid idea a second time. Go out and take LOTS of pictures on her “non-photography day” just to piss her and her idiot friends off. The last time this pinhead was talking about “Non-Photography Police” that would try to stop you from taking pictures.
F**k ‘em.
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Becca, please respect ‘Find something more sensible to do with your life day’ also on 17th July 2007.
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I’m still laughing by the way…
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‘Live the moment, don’t document it’. Surely actively doing something and actively not doing that same thing are equal obstacles to ‘living the moment’, as you put it?
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha (takes a breath) hahahahahahahaha… etc…
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I wondering myself what would think Dimitri about this thread…
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perhaps he would send the dog after her :) I’m still digesting his absence…
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i’ve looked at the link:’abandon your photo shoots’’? yeah right! i’d loose my fucking job! what a fucking joke! I think we should all boycott this wanky day, shoot more than usual and email her pictures taken on nonphotographyday.
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It’s all clearly another excellent caption for your bullshit image, Jake….lol (o;
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i think i’ll email her the bullshit shiot Gayle…
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Who are you anyway? Reveal yourself, why don’t you. Let’s see your pictures. Your profile page is seriously lacking. Becca??
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I’m going to be wearing my new hat and shooting lots of photos on the 17th. It’s highlighted in my diary.
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So…
She is supposed to be the new enlightened and illuminated person who can accept herself and assert herself because she is in touch with her existential ground..or something like that?; even more, she is in touch … with us!!!! We have being choosed…!!!!
I can’t really reallyze how lucky I am…!! C’mon!!! We are trying to work here!!!
NExt…
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Yo… I’ve being thinking more seriously this matter…And let me tell you…. jajajjajajjajajjajjajuaygahahajkgasjbdhhahahhahahahahhahhahaha jujujujjajajuajaujauajajauajjaja,,,
AAaahhhhhhjajjajajjajajjaja..fffffhhhfff huhuhhuhuhuuffff..
this is too much! I have a better idea!!! Why not some days before?...some 13 days!!! juajjajajjajajjaa..
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I’d love to participate, but 17 July is my Non-Clothing Day. If I went without my camera too…I’d just feel naked.
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maybe she should have proposed a “Turn Off Your Damn Cellphone” day. That would have been more meaningful…HA!
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oh, gregory,...lol…. I thought of you when I added that last “Ha!”
I vote for taking photos of photographers taking photos of non-photography day. That could be really deep like the mirrors in my grandpa’s barber shop!
An image of a image of a non-image of an image of a non-image of a non-image of a image…..how’s that go again?
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May 08, 2007 23:41
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Wow!!!
Imants really make a point!!
LOL…
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..that’s because it is a photo of Bec’s ex who lived on mandies in the 70’s, she loves them older and buzzed to the eyeballs
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Still laughing…
I propose an extremely long photo thread here on LS on the 17th July of pictures taken that very day and dedicated to Ms Bland and her ridiculous idea.
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Imants…Great image, great color, interesting type face, BUT word spacing could use a bit of work. Hmmm…what do you think Gayle this is your dept.? :):):)
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jason, love your idea… let’s do it.
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wellllll, maybe a few exclamation points could help create a better horror vacuui syndrome in the viewer. After all, the negative space in Zen philosophy can be so overwhelming to the novice. ...I mean look what happened to poor becca. (;
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What! What course in art school did that come from? Maybe I fell asleep during that lecture.
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Yoko !! more like the friggin cat Bono and his save the world and fill my coffers bunch…........Bec joined LS for a day and wants to be famous I hear she is willing to join Paris in her little stint with a single bed…................pull those undies down!!!!!!!!!
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Hmmm…Martha Stewart,Paris Hilton, and BECCA! Late night HBO here we come…so to speak. ;)
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late night HBO? Gregory, all the real naughty stuff is on Late night Showtime, wouldn’t you agree?
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Becca, I would like to take your picture on 17 July. Contact me if you are interested.
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Gayle…NOW you tell me! Geezzzz!
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I invite Miss Becca Bland to answer the criticism to her ban photography day.
I also ask her to explain in detail her proposal for photography police.i refer to the BBc website article.
I’d like to take the opportunity to ask Miss Bland if in light of recent abuses regarding photographer’s and media rights (there are more than a few articles I can point to, had they escaped her) she has really thought about her proposal. I also would like to know if a student asking people not to work for a day has any sense of shame at all.
But she won’t reply.
not that I give a fuck.
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Greg,
(: Well, my mom made me give up HBO, so I don’t know anymore ):
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........... the last I heard was thet Becca was down at the local bank trying to get them to turn off their cameras
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going down where? in public? at a bank?
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Well, Imants, that is something I would support. Also, turning off all those cameras in public places.
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well she could start by having a few of the cctv cams turned off in england.
I agree completely Gayle. Still, who knows one day she might even grow up.
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oh, now that is a scarey thought, emanuel.
...look what hitler did to the german expressionists, after he wasn’t accepted into art school.
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lol,I had a glimpse of her on some cable show,middle aged..pontificating..not a pretty thought.. what character/mask would she be?
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well you know what goebbells used to say. when I hear the word culture I reach for my gun..
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um hmmmm…..
character mask? I’d say barbara bush without a clue, commenting on the advantages that hurricane katrina brought to the poor.
“In a segment at the top of the show on the surge of evacuees to the Texas city, Barbara Bush said: ‘Almost everyone I’ve talked to says we’re going to move to Houston.
Then she added: ‘What I’m hearing which is sort of scary is they all want to stay in Texas. Everyone is so overwhelmed by the hospitality.
‘And so many of the people in the arena here, you know, were underprivileged anyway, so this—this (she chuckles slightly) is working very well for them.’
The former First Lady’s remarks were aired on American Public Media’s “Marketplace” program.
By E&P Staff Published: September 05, 2005 7:25 PM ET updated 8:00 PM
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barbara bush commenting on the war in iraq..
Why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it’s gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it’s, it’s not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that? —Barbara Bush on Good Morning America, March 18, 2003
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yes, that Iraq comment was even more on target ….enlightening and, oh yes! ok I will have to add up her flamethrower points, emanuel …..lol
...as inspector clouseau would say, “gewd one.”
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Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we. —President George W. Bush, August 5, 2004
she has a lot to learn.. but help seems near..
thanks, Gayle. unfortunately there are just so many ‘good’ quotes to be found.
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Here is my quote….
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heh…been waiting for an excuse to organize another 24 Hrs in NYC. A couple of years ago a bunch of us from another photo site got together in NYC and did 24 hours of non stop “street photography” in NYC. Some of the participants frequent this site….Grant, Ed Leveckis, for example. We met at the info clock in Grand Central Terminal at noon…..and went until the following day at noon. Very few of us actually roamed around in a group, but met at certain places to regroup…..like 2am for a mid nite snack down in the East Village. We can exchange cell numbers with those who actually show up, so we can keep in touch during the event. and of course, those that like groups…go for it. The only real requirement is to try to meet up on the 17th at noon at GCT. We can post pics to some thread within a few days
As before, I just posted that I would be there, and anyone who wanted to join should be there at the same time. How about meeting at GCT, NYC July 17th at noon…..with cameras, of course….heh. And if you don’t…....that’s fine too. No obligations required and DEFINITELY no “tour of NYC” wanted. Just a quick meet, than go shoot like you normally would, meeting occasionally with people from the group to eat or some special event…like a gallery or such.
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(:Ali:), that looks like a giant, full moon to me…lol (;
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TS, hmmmmmm, that sounds interesting. Imants help with T-shirts?
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T.S.S., That could be a very fun day. Keep reminding us NYC people. G.
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I’m in. Noon at GCT. Will Becca be coming? Okay that’s it for me on this thread. She’s had her fifteen minutes of my time.
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What`s she talking about there is “no Moon in Japan”? Hasn`t she got a window. She sends cliche after cliche about this place, sees people plugged into electronics and sleeping salarymen on trains and makes the wrong conclusion from it all. “The Japanese have representation in their hearts and technology at their finger tips and seemingly an allergy to direct experience.” She must have missed a few matsuri, drinking parties and basically anything else that makes up the Japanese LOVE of experiences. I will endevour to takes pictures on the 17th if I can. Silly idea all of it. Damon
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She’s been an LS member since May 8, 2007 at 15:05. After 37 minutes she finally worked up the courage to post her post here. For that she deserves a little credit, and a lot of bashing, indeed.
On TS’s idea, I’m in. Wherever I may be on July 17, a Tuesday, I’ll definitely shoot, even if it’s just a cloudless sky or a cloudy eye, whatever. Everyone show off their pix here. Let’s call it the “Put your camera up to your eye and press the shutter button and screw those who try to declare July 17 a non-photography day day”.
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And the irony of all this is that she is a photography student. It’s going to look really good on her CV is’nt it ? I’m off to get a ‘Bollocks to Becca’ T-shirt printed up ready for the big day.
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‘Live the moment, don’t document it’.
Kind of messes with the porn industry too…
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Rebecca, ‘Amongst’ is spelled with an ‘O’ and not a ‘U’. Non – spelling day, perhaps?
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Damon, I just went outside and fuck me if its not true, there is no moon in Japan. How about we propose blow a stereotype day for the 17th, we can all pick one of our favourite stereotypes and go out and disprove it. Becca has plenty of them ready for the picking.
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‘I just went outside and fuck me if its not true, there is no moon in Japan”
You’re just trolling for action with that one…
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Why not declare 2007 as “Document Becca Bland year” with accompanying online galleries and,eventual,hardcover book to be launched next July 17
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let’s send the paparazzi after her…hee!
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If I feel a little depressed..I just have to get into this post!!!
Wow…
And…LS Presents!!! for the best comedy initiative of the year..BeCCa “noclick17” Bland, Executive producer in association with NDP “Nonimage Development Productions” in Japan….. But you’ve missed… My name is Becca Bland, I am a 23 year old conceptual artist and writer , originally from Brighton in the U.K.
And a great link to…..The nomusicday.com !!!!
If you want to read, Becca is the person…”whose parents privately admitted to EPUK that they where somewath disappointed that whe couldn’t show them any pictures from the holyday they paid for.”
Great post! Lol
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Sounds Like a good idea Nathan. I`ll pick something perverted then ride around on the trains photographing men NOT feeling-up women. Any advice on how to photograph non action like this greatly received from you pros. Is there really no moon? Wow there goes the Japanese space program. By the way has anyone actually found an image of or by Ms Bland yet? For a photographer and artist she seems kind of wordy. Damon
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Talking about diggin’ a hole to China, I was actually thinking of celebrating nopho day with a pinhole camera and set a new Guiness for the longest Zen exposure!
Starting now, I shall practice circular breathing until I can AUUUUUMMMMMMM the half hour necessary to achieve proper exposure of the light at the end of the tunnel…
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Nah Gayle… Don’t even think about it… it doesn’t work!!!! I’ve tried!!! I’ve told those people that I won’t roll out of bed for less than 50k!!! But they keep coming back and pounding on the door!! Wait! Was it the landlord??!!!!!!!
But I know now to make 50 grants without even using my pinhole.
1 – Take unexposed paper. 2 – Drop in fixing bath. 3 – Frame.
Caption: Jumping on the Blandwagon. Price: 50Gs.
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nice idea olivier, but malevitch beat you to it, by 100 years.
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what a thread … becca definitely knows how to make herself talked about.
maybe we should ask her for the advanced training module in self-advertising? thanks to us must have had a lot of traffic on her page recently g
i’ll have stickers printed: celebrate the moment, document it!
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Since I won’t be making those 50K with my “Jumping on the Blandwagon” or a reverse Malevitch’s White Sq/Black on Black, I think I’ll stay home and print 18% grey cards… Heck! If I can sell 10,000 of ‘em on eBay at $5 a pop, my problem is solved! I can only hope that Becca won;t go after me for copyright infringement.
We should stop being goof balls and show bb “some” support. I suggest cranking those fancy SLRs down to 3 fps…
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Or how about we shoot with the lens cap on?
Surely a decent compromise…
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if kodak can sell 24euro grey cards..best of luck to you olivier.
Jason..that’s why they invented slrs..lol- I remember my using a rangefinder.. With polaroids it’s worse.because you pull ‘em out..wait, peel apart..and start swearing.
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Yeah, i remember shooting someone a few years ago with a rangefinder and after four or five frames the subject asked me, “is the lens cap meant to be on?”
Deeply deeply embarassed at the time.
Maybe Becca did the same thing when she was a student? Maybe this is where her whole idea sprang from? An attempt to cover up a simple mistake with a load of Zen bollocks…
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I put little red dots on the important things to take care of when using a polaroid rangefinder. cock the shutter.f..k lens cap.s..t focus.doh Obviously I stuck a red dot on the back to remind me of the red dots on the front..
af,autoexposure slrs really spoil you..
As for the said Becca..
she would have done better to develop her sense of humor.
she still hasn’t replied to my pm or directly here. come on. we’re only taking the piss.
you know what they say- oh well.
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If a picture is worth a thousand words, how many words is no picture worth?
Can we all start suggesting “day” ideas? Where do you apply for a “day”? I thought “wear a brown paper bag over your head day” would be kind of cool, but I don’t know who to contact about getting this started. Unlike not taking photos, there is a lot of room for creativity with my idea. You can personalize your bag/head anyway you want (the only rule is you can’t cut any holes in it to see out of). You can draw a face on the back of it and hair on the front, you can draw someone elses face on it, or you can leave it blank and open to interpretation(that is reserved for the more artsy types). Who’s with me? What? You got something better than walking around all day and not seeing?
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July 17th, it’s official”
DAY IN THE LIFE OF BECCA BLAND DAY
a 24 hr, around the clock, minute by minute, photographic exploration, meditatively, visually, existentially concerned with the photographic exploration and excavation of Becca Bland. PHotographers from around the world are encouraged to (a la the reknown “Day in the Life of” series) approach the said subject with as much candor and intimacy and exposure as possible. The project encourages any manner of photography (film, digital, cell phone, surveillance camera, russian-spy cams, toy camera, box cameras) any manner of style (pj, art, b/w, digital, 35mm, med format) and any manner of photographer (pro, amateur, kid, voyeur) in an attempt to better understand and penetrate the murky and opaque world of Becca Bland.
Good Luck Ladies and Gentlemen: it’s a tough assignment, the last frontier….
Aperature’s agreed to publish the book….
cheers, bob
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I’m starting to feel sorry for the poor creature. How pathetic is that?
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paul: i dont feel sorry: fatherhood has taught me to swallow everything and to accept getting my ass kicked ;))))
we should buy her an old Brownie or Rangefinder, or shit, a small disposable, let her see that sometimes the effort to photograph can be as transformative and meditative as silence….;)))))))))))))
i dont feel bad for those who attempt to abolish someone else’s pleasure/principle/job under the bullshit (umm, i mean principle) of betterment, their idea of betterment: if she were really a zen buddhist, i’d tell her something simple: the world is a dream and so are all those annoying photographer who break her silence….
silence is the space of breath inside, not the world around….
im meditative and im also a “loud” photographer ;)))))))
cheers, bob
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Hey Becca,
You have been in Japan only 6 months and you manage to conclude ALL THIS?
Wow! I have been here for 7 years and can’t yet conclude anything so simplistic.
You’ve really got the hang of the Zen thing heh?
Nick
P.S Found a spelling mistake on the opening shpeel of your site.
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I read the first couple of paragraphs from that link above, thanks Nick, but I soon realised that I was wasting my time. Utter nonsense.
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we have been hacked by becca!!!! ahahahaha she’s really trying to fuck photographers!!!
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we have been hacked by becca!!!! ahahahaha she’s really trying to fuck photographers!!!
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I’m still laughing by the way…
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I understand now. Someone took a horrible photo of her,poor lass. logically she sets out to ban photography..
poor girl,first her surname,can you imagine kids at shool? then that photo..
well I remember an aunt of mine wanting ‘to rip my eyes out’ after seeing a photo I had taken of her..
ah, women..
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snicker at least we smell good, emanuel …well, most of us do anyway, most of the time. (o:
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This thread is doing my head in. I’m getting out.
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Becca – I know you haven’t got the gonads to respond to the responses in this thread but please make sure to kiss my lilly white ass – I vote to make July 17th photography day! Everybody make sure to take lots and lots of photos, make thumbnails of them and send them to Becca….I’m not sure why it is some shitbird feels the need to control the actions of others but there always seems to be someone causing friction because of what they so desire….forget it Becca, it’s not happening. Hope I made my point.
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July 17th could be… Moon B. Bland day…
Years ago a friend of my sisters would habitually forget his camera at our house. As a prank, my brother and I decided would take one shot each of each others butts. He’d get the film developed and amongst all the pics he’d taken there were two of us mooning him. This went on a few more times until he started to remember to take his camera with him. To this day, he never forgets his camera.
There could be many moons in Japan on the 17th of July.
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Dear Becca
Your not American by any chance, are you?
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Dear Becca
Your not American by any chance, are you?
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“Your not American by any chance, are you?”
Come on. Bullshit like that could only come from a British art school student.
I ought to know, I went to a British art school…
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After that BBC piece Becca can really stick it where the sun don’t shine…how DARE she?! Lol…unbelievable.
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I suggest we appoint an LS Witchfinder General, and dunk her in the Thames. If she drowns, she’s innocent. If not, wait for her to dry out…then you bring the wood, I’ll bring the flaming torch and we can all sing ‘Kum By Yah’ bathed in the cleansing warmth of a heretic.
Blimey, reading this stuff you’d think there was a fatwa out on the lass – its not like she asked for a copyright grab or nuffin’. I can think of a lot more photo-people to throw in a wicker man than Becca Bland.
Which by the way is a top name. I really hope its not a pseudonym…can I call myself Kevin Spicy?
You’d better all be observing this one though, you scurvy dogs…
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ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH, IMANTS…...MY EYES, MY EYES….THEY’RE BURNING…OOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!THE PAIN THE PAIN…..........
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I’ve been trying my best here to keep a straight face, carefully edit, make constructive comments and do constructive things with my time like sign the Paris Hilton Petition.
but, ......your right Akaky! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRR, ...IT BURNS, IT BURNS ….IT SEERS ….MY EYES!!!!!!!
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My goodness, Imants, who is that sweet little lady coming up to bat?
Now that becca has met our secret weapon, hope she doesn’t try to sweet talk your friend into joining the popo nofo brigade.
I hate to say this, but, she looks as if she could turn against just about anyone for the right bustier.
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Sion’s dirty ol’ pants pirate ((:: helped me find this video of last year’s nofo day.
And you know, it wasn’t even called nofo day last year….it was much more positive and enlightening experience. It was called:
Ecstasy Day
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Missed but not by much there were a couple of centimeters in it….......... the de-clowning of Bec should commence immediatly
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Paul, I agree. It as though we have become a pack of wild dogs on the attack.
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I am just amazed at the amount of vitriol here directed at some innocent wannabe Zen-babe with an idea that, after all, is not even that original…
Come on – I for one, totally agree that both I and my kids have a lot more fun if I’m kicking the ball, rather than photographing them doing it. I guess for ONE day, I can be a full-on participant rather than an observer. Geezz … you’d think she was FORCING everyone to give up their crack for a WEEK, or something!
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Yes, this thread generally comes across as a bunch of arrogant, bullying schoolkids who are scared they’re going to have their lollipops confiscated (though actually crack is probably more accurate in today’s schools….) Some of the posts would be pretty funny if they weren’t directed at such an unwitting target but as it is they mostly just come across as plain nasty…..Obviously NPD is not directed at professional photographers who have IMPORTANT things to document or make a living from it, so keep your hair on!! Stop getting your knickers in such a twist!! And lots of other strangely matched metaphors!! NPD really just seems to me to be making quite a simple, rather innocent point and is not a direct attack on the hallowed profession of photojournalism at all…but most people here seem to be too full of their own self-importance to see that. Lighten up, give the girl a break, let her be in her hippy dippy moment and save LS for sticking the boot into the real villains who are trying to sabotage our profession….
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Just wait till her black leather clad zen non-photography police cart you off for a good beating Tobie and let’s see how you feel about it then! JR.
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............. nothing wrong with some fun from time to time, now those lollypops you have sitting in the cupboard can I have one….. smile following If one remotely thinks that this thread is taken seriously there is a problem somewhere…................it sure an’t here in this breadbox
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Yes, well as I said Imants, some of it is pretty funny, especially your “not happy Becca” post which made me laugh out loud…..but there’s fun (good) and then there’s fun at someone else’s expense (deserved in this case) and then there’s ripping someone to five million little pieces and serving them up to rabid dogs just for the hell of it…and this thread seems to cover all those bases. Try telling little miss bland not to take some of this seriously, she’s probably eating poison sushi and throwing herself under the Yamanote line as I write….
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hmmm, perhaps Ms. Bland would like a second helping of the blowfish….? (;
Oh, please…you two (and not Imants or John) plus becca are the ones that need to lighten up…and you are right, barry, the rest of you are scurvy dogs... ho-ho, I tease you, you my little puuppy. (o:
Holy Mary, between colleagues getting kidnapped, tortured executed, beheaded, blown apart, missing God only knows where, kids sacrificing their lives and well being on dangerous assignment, this post was just pleading for some comic relief. Particularly being posted practically the same day as when Dmitry was killed.
If Becca is looking to just advertise and invite people to experience things differently so that their images may be greater, then that is one thing. But I have some real problems with her approach of her thesis and I definitely have some problems with her trying to enforce her ideas on people.
The whole thing about thinking one knows better than a whole history and culture of people is what is arrogant here.
The people who have posted in response do not agree at all with her proclamation and at the same time they are blowing off steam with the same natural biting sarcasm that allows them to survive the traumas of a difficult vocation. I don’t care if you think she is just some “hippy dippy” student, students should not be coddled like that out in the field.
As a professor, I would never have approved this thesis. I don’t care how much press she gets, in my opinion, it is arrogant and ignorant of not just a profession but it trivializes a whole history and culture of people.
And my God, if she can’t take what comes with promoting what she claims she wants to enforce as a “globalized” movement outside of the classroom, then I think she needs to reevaluate her quest.
Most of the people that are joking here I don’t believe are teachers so certainly they have no reason at all to coddle anyone. I think perhaps and I may be wrong, that I am practically the only one here that was a college professor and it would be a disservice to coddle any student period, let alone one with a thesis this bad. It is not a good conceptual piece and it is a very shallow and pompous cultural piece.
And comparing professionals’ livilihood and a vocation that one has fought so hard to not just achieve but to maintain to “crack” is about as ridiculous as this thesis.
This is not the place for students to tell professionals what to do and why they need to do it.
I think Becca posted with very bad timing and with a very unattractive proposal….not even a proposal rather a demand, and that is always a great recipe for satire.
If these comments have caused her outrage, rather than dismiss them as uncalled for, she should rather examine why she got this response in the first place and why does she have this need to demand and control human behavior.
It is just not right to not give her honest responses particularly when she wants to advertise this thread as a deep discussion regarding her ideology for her website.
Sorry, but that’s my opinion.
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Imants
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May 12, 2007 12:38
(ed. 12 May 13:32)
| Whatdoyamean Iamnotallowedin,
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Imants- now tell me that you don’t think Gayle is taking this thread seriously.
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Ditto to Gayle’s comment above.
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Hear hear Gayle! Ms Bland`s idea is not a strikingly original one. I do not know anyone, even pro-shooters, that spend every waking hour looking through a lens. Of course it is good to go and do things without a camera sometimes just as it is great to go and look at the world with a photographic viewpoint sometimes. The experience are different but I do not believe one to be superior to the other.
If Ms Bland wants to go and have a day of non-photography to have a different experience that is all well and good but why does she have to make it into “a day”? Days are to celebrate something like: Mothers` day, Fathers` day, Independence day, Christmas day. NPDay celebrates nothing actually, get this, here we have an artist trying to make a special day to celebrate the non-creation of art. Does not that seem strange to you? There is no point that I can see in following the principles of NPDay other than to massage Ms. Bland`s ego and that doesn`t sound too Zen to me.
The ribauld abuse she is getting here is no different to usual pub banter in the UK and she should be used to it. As Gayle said if she can`t handle it what is she doing organising hoped for “global” events?
What myself and other Japan-based people find particularly unpalatable is her take on Japan. I`ve been here five years. Some of the other`s like Nick or Nathan much longer and I am sure none of us would dare to assume so publically that we understand the place. We have all experienced disappointments here and made sweeping statements of rapid reflection but long exposure to the culture has taught us that almost every opinion you form about Japan is proved wrong at some later date. If Ms.Bland has kept the same point of view on Japan for the six monthy since she stepped off the aeroplane in Narita she is obviously not getting out there to find real Japan.
Becca I ask you to spend longer experiencing things before you pronounce so surely on them. Photography is not evil, try taking a few more pics before you throw aside your camera. Also Thailand is more than noisy, rude tourists. I lived in Thailand for a year too and know exactly what you find distasteful about tourism there but your beach stoner epiphany is as ill thought through and predictable as your gaijin eyes. Damon
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Damn right Gayle and Damon!
Remember most of us are just taking the piss on this thread. And i, for one, firmly believe she’s left herself wide open for having the piss taken.
Some of the statements on her website, especially, about the Japanese are not only pompous, pretentious and ignorant, but downright racist at times.
An art school education, a mere six months in Japan, and a few books by D.T. Suzuki and probably a few more on post-modernism doesn’t make her an expert on representation, photography, or a foreign culture.
I personally dislike the reducing of an entire culture to an easily defined stereotype.
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Alot to read here and I’m too lazy.
I imbed with the National Guard on July 14th. It’s my first time with the armed forces, so you’ll have to pry the camera out of my hands to get me to stop shooting!
I say we have a Non-Breathing Day; it might prove to be more productive.
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In lieu of No Photography Day, how about a No Gunfire Day, wherein we convince everyone currently shooting, bombing, maiming, and otherwise engaging in other forms of politically sociopathic behavior to go after their bete noires with cocoanut custard pies instead. If for some religious or social reason cocoanut custard pies are taboo/haram/treyf/and otherwise yucky, key lime pies will be provided at no extra charge.
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In trying to prick some pomposity I appear to have created some for myself. Sorry about that :(
Will someone please say something funny again. Or gratuitously swear which seems to work just as well!
Damon
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“Crap, Poo, Crap”
How’s that Damon?
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Barry I was responding to the lollypops post …........... Gayle the one peering between Bec’s photo police….... ........... link textimage
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Imants
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May 12, 2007 22:02
(ed. 12 May 22:03)
| Whatdoyamean Iamnotallowedin,
Australia
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Lollypops, Imants? I shall arise and go now and succumb to the unclouded light of the the Chihuahuan desert.
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From penelope’s statement”bullying schoolkids who are scared they’re going to have their lollipops confiscated (though actually crack is probably more accurate in today’s schools….)” those pops so see you in the desert remember the salt flats are not crack flats….. I’m outa here , have to see Lawrence about a pair of shoes
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Imants
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May 13, 2007 04:59
(ed. 13 May 05:04)
| Whatdoyamean Iamnotallowedin,
Australia
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I will say one more serious opinion here since some people are taking this post seriously, (some too seriously) and I really didn’t want to since I had hoped to have retired from the teaching profession. I would rather get a good laugh over this than not get paid for professional advice/critique. And, sorry, I’m in a bit of a rush here on deadline, and so have not been able to read the recent posts above so I may have to come back and edit in relation to them….i am hoping they are all really funny though….and yes that is me peeking through. ;D and as you can see from my expression, I am quite horrified that there is no bikini wax in sight… no where to beach in that forest apparently! DO:~ Sorry, personal taste showing, but that blue hair is to die for, and, Imants! The lap dance WAS FABULOUS! Thank you! Gave me a whole new lease on life not to mention new meaning to the term “down under”...(o:~
First of all I am much more in awe at the shallowness of Ms. Bland thesis advisors than Ms. Bland’s premise, unless, of course, Ms Bland is doing this inspite of their advice.
This thesis never should have left the formulation stage, let alone the building. As I said before, this, not just presented in it’s final and formal stage but actually launched is an immature, arrogant and ignorant concept. And to present it in this stage to a professional forum is highly laughable and deserves worst treatment than we so lovingly (except Imants, of course….(o:) teased it with.
Now there is a core in the thesis that Ms. Bland’s thesis advisors could have recognized as substance, but then they allowed it not to enter into the worthy genre of conceptual art but rather let it run amok into an alternate universe that is not clever at all, but rather senseless and frivolous and formed from perceptions that border on, in the least, ignorance, and at the most, cultural and economic racism, either that or else some poor grad TA has taken over their professor’s duties for free and doesn’t know how or doesn’t care to carefully direct Ms. Bland’s, shall we say, “overzealousness” for the Japanese culture and the chinese/japanese philosophy of Zen Buddhism.
The arrogance I speak of, comes in when a student of the same profession comes onto a professional trade site telling it’s members to please respect “ma authoritay” and follow the “New Rule”, and I’m not talking about “New Rules” with the quality content sarcasm that Bill Maher weaves. Also, there is a telltale arrogance about someone (non-japanese?) critiqueing the Japanese with the Japanese’ own historical, religious and cultural philosophy of Zen and by someone whom, if I understand this correctly, I believe was there for less than half a year?
This “new rule” tells us to respect a day that we had no part in organizing and hopefully would never agree to. And to have the day and rule policed? Well, isn’t that Orwellian, for you.
Now if Ms. Bland had had the thesis advisors she had probably paid an arm and a leg for, they would have saved the core of her project and helped her realize it as a potentially great idea that could have stood on the shoulders of giants rather than cut them off at the knees. Of course, the concept that she started with is not original in the least.
It’s core comes from the honorable/noble protest category of “hunger strikes” and in this particular form most recently it was used to protest the horrific devastation that AIDS was having on the Art community. December 1, is World AIDS Day, thousands of organizations mark a Day With(out) Art. Between 1989 and 1997, a Day Without Art was a reminder of the void that would exist in a world without artists.. It was created to symbolize the loss of so many of our most talented and gifted colleagues to the then terminal immune deficiency disease.
Now some homophobes still laugh about the devastation AIDS took on the Arts and the Arts Community, but then they should think about where our culture would be without the gifts of Leonardo da Vinci, painter-scientist (1452-1519), MICHELANGELO Buonarroti. Italian painter, sculptor and architect (b. 1475, Caprese, d. 1564, Roma), Frances Bacon artist/painter, David Hockney Artist and photographer, Mapplethorpe Photographer, artist (AIDS victim), Sappho, Greek poet (600 B.C.) Queen Christina, Swedish ruler (1626-1689), Madame de Stael, French author (1766-1817), Emily Dickinson, American poet (1830-1886), Willa Cather, American author (1873-1947), Gertrude Stein, American author (1874-1946), Virginia Woolf, British author (1882-1941), Vita Sackville-West, British author (1892-1962), Zeno, Greek philosopher (500 B.C.), Sophocles, Greek playwright (496?-406 B.C.), Socrates, Greek philosopher (470?-399 B.C.), Aristotle, Greek philosopher (384-322 B.C.), Alexander the Great, Macedonian ruler (356-323 B.C.), Emperor Hadrian, Roman ruler (76-138 A.D.),Richard the Lion-Hearted, British ruler (1157-1199), Richard II, British ruler (1367-1400), Benvenuto Cellini, Italian goldsmith (1500-1571), Christopher Marlowe, British playwright (1564-1593), King James I, British ruler (1566-1625),John Milton, British poet (1608-1674), Jean Baptiste Lully, French composer (1632-1687),Frederick the Great, Prussian ruler (1712-1786), King Gustav III, Swedish ruler (1746-1792),Baron Alexander von Humboldt, German naturalist (1769-1859), Lord Byron, British poet (1788-1824), Hans Christian Andersen, Danish author (1805-1875), Walt Whitman, American poet (1819-1892), Samuel Butler, British author (1835-1902), Algernon Swinburne, British poet (1837-1909), Petr Ilich Tchaikovsky, Russian composer (1840-1893), Paul Verlaine, French poet (1844-1896), Oscar Wilde, Irish playwright (1854-1900), Frederick Rolfe (Baron Corvo), British author (1860-1913), Andre Gide, French author (1869-1951), Marcel Proust, French author (1871-1922), E. M. Forster, British author (1879-1970), John Maynard Keynes, British economist (1883-1946), Sir Harold Nicholson, British author-diplomat (1886-1968), T. E. Lawrence, British soldier-author (1888-1935), Jean Cocteau, French author (1889-1963), Christopher Isherwood, British author, Dag Hammarskjold, Swedish secretary-general U.N. (1905-1961), W. H. Auden, British-American poet, Jean Genet, French playwright, Tennessee Williams, American playwright, Brendan Behan, Irish author (1923-1964), etc, etc…. had they or any other remarkable hetrosexual artist, for that matter, contracted the deadly disease and therefore cut short at the height of their miraculous careers.
This type protest category uses personal sacrifice as a way to ensure our own freedom to exist or freedom to be included/accepted or freedom to choose. This category of protest is not meant to be used as an anti-freedom statement; to make others/professionals abstain “for their own good” from their own livihoods and then to actually try to police freelancers into “fasting” for a day? My reaction can only one of sarcasm since Ms. Bland, in Lightstalkers’ case, has again obviously and completely misjudged a community and what I understand the professional community Lightstalkers’ supports is all about.
Now if, Becca’s unoriginal thesis kernel had been fostered into a much needed protest for (not against) the field of photography, she should have gone in the opposite direction and had a NonPhotography day in order, to say, protest Anti-copyright Legislation or unfair contracts that coerce W4H with little or no compensation.
As it stands now, presenting Non-photography day on Lightstalkers is just shallow and silly, as not of any benefit really to professional photographers or any other artist, rather it is someone’s slanted ideology attempting to be policed upon a profession. Even if only for a day, it still doesn’t make sense to not be satirical about. If it goes longer than a day then I agree with Imants, let’s hire that sweet little lady to pounce upon the opposition. If it becomes a crazy growing youth movement like “free-culture” under Lawrence Lessig then, I would love to be to first say “Step-off George!” and wear a “Focker off” Imants T-Shirt over my South Park panties ready to, on Imants que, full moon en masse.
How much and how often it is forced upon us, for me, will be the difference between the majority of my responses being teasing and satirical or the majority of my responses being outright indignant. But at this stage and to me, it is still just a bad Sarah Silverman joke that should have been cut before it made it to the second gig.
OK, now it’s time for me to follow my favorite professor’s advice, “If you talk so much, you will never get any art done.”
But not before I sing praises to the cheeky PANTS PIRATE, you scurvy dogs! Thanks Sion! :o)
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10/10 Professor Hegland. Oh, and lets hope we can look forward to a ‘What the duck’ special concerning this on 17th July.
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YO: MAY 13TH: ANTI- (NON-MOTHERS DAY!) :))))))))))))
HAPPY MUM’S DAY MARINA, HAPPY MOM’S DAY MARGO (that’s my mom) :)))))))))))))))
LOVE YOUR HUBBIE AND SON
B
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i’m amazed of all the fuss around this post. Silence would be the best reply to such an absurd request, but, if you, people think it’s fun, go on and make noise
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No, it’s not fun anymore. It was for a little while just to let off steam after Dmitry died, right after Ajmal died.
People seriously dissented as is their right and then it just got really satirically funny and not at anyone’s expense since that person clearly wasn’t even here to participate.
I do not want to laugh at Ms. Bland, but you know, I do have a tendency to laugh at authority figures, and I would much rather laugh at her thesis than analyze it.
Having just come from the unbelievable underworld of academia, I guess that I shouldn’t be surprised at the low quality of teaching out there now, but I would rather laugh at it’s state than analyze how it got there because I am well aware of the awful truth.
And, sooooo….. that is the reason why I am out of there and now out of here.
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