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I have a plan for a photo-documentary on the relevance of Police in British society through portraiture. I plan to do this with full permission and co-operation with the UK police. The images may later appear in an exhibition at a later date, so releases will be prepared. Anyone have any idea of precautions I should think of before I approach them with my ideas? As I’m not too sure of the rights between myself and an official subject; involving their personal identity etc. If anyone has had previous experience photographing with police any advice would be greatly appreciated.

by Matt Lain at Fri Aug 17 22:58:57 UTC 2007 (ed. Mar 12 2008) Norwich, United Kingdom | Bookmark this | Digg this |

There is no UK Police force. There are many police forces covering areas of the country (Metropolitan, Strathclyde etc) as well as smaller specialised forces (like the British Transport Police).

Obviously they interact, but the forces act independently and will have separate press offices, as well as being subject to different laws – English law isn’t the same as Scottish law.

You’ll have legal issues photographing officers interacting with any suspects (e.g. stop and search). Unless you can confirm the suspects were convicted or not, you might end up getting sued by them after the fact for defamation, especially as if the images appear in a gallery, it could be argued they’re not ‘editorial use’.

So as far as model releases are concerned, you’ll need to get releases from suspects at the time, and would need releases from parents or guardians if the suspects were under 16.

by Sion Touhig | 18 Aug 2007 12:08 | London, United Kingdom |
At this stage in your career I think your chances of working with the police are slim. Seems to me you need a lot more experience under your belt first.

I would suggest, if you’re serious about this, to learn as much as you can about policing in the UK. The fact that you said, “the UK police force” suggests that you need to gather in some understanding about police jurisdictions first of all.

I would suggest that you get some local agency experience for a while first. That way you can get a NAPPA press card and so gain some legitimacy with the police. NAPPA, so far as I can remember is National Association of Press Photography Agencies. If you can get yourself a gig with a local press agency you will learn a whole lot about community policing very very quickly and that could be your way in.

Overall, I found the British police to be highly professional and well briefed when dealing with the media. During my agency days in the UK I worked on stories involving Merseyside, West Mercer, West Midlands, and the Met. Police forces.

Later I went on to work with the Brooklyn North Homicide Squad here in New York and with the NYPD hostage Negotiators. These experiences completely blew my mind.

It’s not easy nor will it be easy any time soon. If you want to do documentary work on the cops, you need to take it slow and pay close attention. It may take some time.

And whatever you do, don’t show them your profile picture.

by Paul Treacy | 18 Aug 2007 14:08 | New York City, United States |
I don’t mean to take the wind out of your sails buddy but this is serious business. It’s takes time. It takes hard work. It requires a level of awareness that only comes with experience. You also need to earn the trust of the police and that takes serious commitment.

by Paul Treacy | 18 Aug 2007 14:08 | New York City, United States |
Thanks to both your replies guys. Yeah I certainly have little experience in this kind of field. What I had planned to do involved ‘documentary portraiture’. I didn’t expect to be allowed to follow them around the street, and it wouldn’t need to leave the office anyway. They would also be photographs of a number of policemen and women I already have as close friends and their associates, I expect this would be the easiest way to go about finding as many trusting subjects as possible. I’ll be researching as much as I can when I get some free time in the future, assuming I’ll find all the limitations I could face in that period?

by Matt Lain | 18 Aug 2007 17:08 (ed. Aug 18 2007) | Norwich, United Kingdom |
I was told (when I was last arrested) that they are no longer allowed to call themselves “Force” as it makes people scared of them. They prefer the softer term of “Service”

With the current sense of paranoia in the UK, I doubt they would want someone following them around and documenting possible screw-ups. Have you contacted any of them? I heard Ian Blair is a lovely chap ;)

by Daniel Cuthbert | 19 Aug 2007 03:08 | Bangkok, Thailand |
I just edited the original post to avoid all this confusion over what my actual intentions were, I hadn’t planned to follow any of the police ‘service’ around. But, making environmental portraits of them in familiar places. Yes Daniel, Ian’s lovely.

by Matt Lain | 19 Aug 2007 07:08 | Norwich, United Kingdom |
I had to double check you weren’t from Brazil and liked puffy jackets, as Ian kinda loves that look.

Have you approached the Met’s film unit?

http://www.filmlondon.org.uk/press_details.asp?NewsID=635

They might be able to help

by Daniel Cuthbert | 19 Aug 2007 07:08 | Bangkok, Thailand |
Matt, give the press office in Wymondham a call on 01953 423666 and speak to Jonathan Ford. You may get somewhere, but be prepared for the standard rebuff of ‘No Comment’ and ‘Murder, what murder?’

Mind you the previous press officer in Norwich not too many years ago hated the media with a vengeance, denying everything that went on and with the attitude of tell ‘em nothing!

At least things are a little better these days.

Best
Jason

by Jason Bye | 22 Aug 2007 15:08 | Norwich, United Kingdom |
You will need permission

http://www.holdthefrontpage.co.uk/photo/2007/08aug/070810lodge.shtml

by Gary Austin | 22 Aug 2007 17:08 | London, Heathrow, United Kingdom |
Following on from Gary’s post above and from my own experience of the police in ‘Shottingham’, Matt would be best not taking his portraits there. Personally I would rather pour molten lead into my ears than willingly undertake a project to photograph the UK police. Best of luck with that one Matt !!

by John Watts-Robertson | 22 Aug 2007 18:08 (ed. Aug 22 2007) | Glendon, United Kingdom |
thanks guys. Looks like I’ve got my work cut out then John!

by Matt Lain | 22 Aug 2007 18:08 | Norwich, United Kingdom |
After your arrest, please post a photo of what it looks like inside the police station from your point of view, with all your stuff on the desk, so we can see how much things have changed since I was in your shoes, a couple of decades ago:



by md | 22 Aug 2007 19:08 (ed. Aug 22 2007) | Minneapolis, United States |
Nothing ventured nothing gained. Good luck and don’t be put off. You may get some some superb images but have problems selling them.
Why not try something that hasn’t been tried before like photo’s of Jade Goody’s latest hairdo or try getting a shot of Victoria Beckham wearing sun glasses. There’s a market for the rare original images which make serious social statements.
Seriously though good luck. I for one would be interested in the results of such a project.

by Robert Byford | 26 Aug 2007 22:08 | Frome, United Kingdom |
If you want to do portraits and you have friends in the service, they should be able to direct you to the persons in charge of granting permissions for this. Seems do-able to me if you can submit a clear proposal that shows the nature of your project and if doesn’t threaten security, slander, etc. It’s got to to be possible. They are just portraits..
If it can’t be arranged on a formal level, see if anything permits them from being photographed in/out of uniform while off duty.

by erica mcdonald | 26 Aug 2007 22:08 | New York, United States |

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Matt Lain, Student/Photographer Matt Lain
Student/Photographer
Norwich , United Kingdom
En route to Pêra (ETA: Jul 24 2008)
Sion Touhig, Photographer Sion Touhig
Photographer
Singapore , Singapore
Paul  Treacy, Photographer Paul Treacy
Photographer
(Photohumorist)
New York City , United States ( JFK )
Daniel Cuthbert, button clicker Daniel Cuthbert
button clicker
(..)
Johannesburg , South Africa
Jason Bye, Freelance Photographer Jason Bye
Freelance Photographer
Norwich , United Kingdom
Gary Austin, Photographer Gary Austin
Photographer
(News and Documentary)
Derby , United Kingdom
John Watts-Robertson, Photographer John Watts-Robertson
Photographer
(JR)
somewhere , United Kingdom ( GBG )
md, md
Undisclosed location.
Robert Byford, photographer Robert Byford
photographer
Frome , United Kingdom ( LHR )
erica mcdonald, photographer erica mcdonald
photographer
New York , United States


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