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1 Terrabyte Hard Drives- Any suggestions?

I’m looking into getting a 1 terrabyte hard-drive to act as a backup of all my digital files (which are currently on two 500gb Lacie Extreme drives). Does anyone have any experience of using the LaCie 1TB Big Disk Extreme drive? Or other brands? Would people recommend having a backup on Tape Drive instead. I’ve heard a few horror stories recently of the Lacie drives packing up and losing all their data.
cheers, Simon.

by Simon Roberts at 2005-12-01 06:16:30 UTC (ed. Mar 12 2008 ) Oxted (with newly born baby) , United Kingdom | Bookmark | | Report spam→

Take a look at this new book

http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/dambk/index.html

on Digital Asset Management.

I find the whole backing up thing a chore, but not a big a headache as having a 1TB drive crash on me…the temptation is simply too great to dump your whole life on the thing and not back up in addition to other media (and more than once) so I try to make backing up on DVD a regular ritual.

As the book suggests, it’s a case of treading a fine line between convenience / going into a paranoid backup spiral and spending a fortune on Fort Knox style backing up, so DVD is probably cheaper and more convenient than tape…and larger DVD’s are on the horizon in anticipation of storing large volumes of data like DV footage.



by [former member] | 01 Dec 2005 13:12 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Lost 3 LaCie’s in 2 years so far. The sWanky Porche designed (read, cheap plastic, brushed metal effect) drives fared the worst, neither lasted more than 4 months.
The Extreme drives in the older, larger cases have been, so far, reliable.
I’m currently running 4×500gb FW800 LaCie’s, 2 for storage, 2 for backup and they’re working well.

The 1TB is, I’m fairly certain, 4x 250gb drives with a RAID controller that makes them appear as 1 drive.
If you have that much data you might start looking at an actual RAID system where you have back up, redundancy & expandability on the fly.

Downside… Loadsa money!
http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore.woa/90101/wo/MQ3HhDphURwd2t7zz0V1yeYKqKA/2.0.19.1.0.8.25.7.11.3.3

Sion’s still right about regular DVD back up, though DVD’s aren’t wonderfully stable either.

Oh crap! Now I sound like the paranoid backup freak, great…

by ivan Coleman | 01 Dec 2005 17:12 | Tasmania, Australia | | Report spam→
Yo bakupz do be well stable innit, if ya keep it real an pimp yo ride wiv da BLING bwoy…

http://www.delkin.com/delkin_products_archival_gold_dvd.html

Not to be confused however with this type of gold DVD, which is just crap:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1018720,00.html

Wot the hell you doin’ in Tasmania man? Ain’t Stokey wild enough for ya?

Now I know I recommended storing yer DVD’s offsite, but that’s ridiculous…

by [former member] | 01 Dec 2005 18:12 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
A TB RAID is not that expensive if you build it yourself. Not as daunting as it seems. I have built one for myself, a 1TB RAID-5 server that is gigabit-networked, running Windows XP, for about $1200 (which includes the XP license, and it would be even cheaper to build the same machine today). All that means is, you can turn it on, plug it into the network and map it as a drive from a PC or Mac (I use a PC). Its fast, stores your data redundantly, cheaply, and its extremely stable. Ive been pounding it for nearly a year without so much as a hiccup. (although, its nearly full now).

Check out my blog if you want to see the details : www.akornphoto.com/blog.html

better yet, if you are serious about an inexpensive, fast, robust storage machine, send me an email and Ill walk you through it. 

By the way, if you are serious about your storage you should have any file server or big drive on a good UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply). I can’t stress that enough.

Cheers – Andrew – akornylak at gmail dot com

by Andrew Kornylak | 01 Dec 2005 20:12 | Georgia, United States | | Report spam→
Thanks guys.

Sion- Do you always use the gold DVDs over normal ones? They’ve certainly got a gold price tag! Love your portrait of Maggie Thatcher by the way. Scarey!

Ivan- Do you keep your Lacie drives connected at all times (not backup drives), or do you just connect as and when? I heard that most of the problems with them are linked to overheating or power surges. So presumably if you only connect them when needed it reduces risk of damage.

Andrew- Thanks for the RAID tip. I’ll take a look at your blog.

by Simon Roberts | 02 Dec 2005 02:12 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
To be honest I dont although am seriously considering burning a smaller archive of me top stuff on gold DVD…my top stuff not as many pics as I’d wish (cos I is crap) but the rest just goes on normal DVD’s. I burn them at 1x speed and NEVER write on them. Then they go in a box untouched and I keep an eye on ‘em.

Most estimates reckon that bog-standard media like CD and DVD wll degrade in approx. 5 years, at hich point you might not be able to open them.

I’ve already migrated all my old CD backup onto DVD, and no doubt in a coupla years will migrate again to bigger disks. I’m also gonna think about a RAID (but only for stuff thats already backed up), and have just signed onto Photoshelter which may be a way to store an archive in several places with a UPS.

And thats about as far as I’m gonna go, cos life is too short.

You might want to investigate a thing called a NAS I think…its basically a hard drive that has its own IP address on the net, so you can access it from any computer…which is handy if you move around a lot. I’ve got some info somewhere and will try to dig it out.


by [former member] | 02 Dec 2005 02:12 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Oh Stokey’s wild enough dude (watch out for flying museli!) just that Tazzie’s warmer mate:-) Only here till Jan though:-(
Simon: I turn the 2 backups on only when backing up (end of each week) and yeah, the problem was overheating.
No I don’t store off site either (that’s just madness;-) or use gold DVDs or a RAID…I do use the Silverprint CD boxes & secols though.
Andrew clearly has the knowledge on the RAID case (I might be e-mailing you later too Andrew).

I’ve been looking at that DAM book and it looks like the RAID system is, currently, the best long term solution, especially when you consider that the 4 LaCie 500gb HDs are almost the same size as a RAID

by ivan Coleman | 02 Dec 2005 04:12 | Tasmania, Australia | | Report spam→
NAS stands for "Network Attached Storage". The RAID I built is technically a NAS RAID, since it is accessible only by a network and has its own IP address. The alternative is a drive that is attached via a USB cable, Firewire, serial cable, etc.

RAID by the way stands for "Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks". It really is simple. Its just a computer with a lot of hard drives, a RAID controller, and a high speed network card.

By the way, I do periodically back up data onto Matsui Silver CD-ROMS, which are archival (or, GEFM archival – "Good Enough for Me" – dont you love acronyms)


by Andrew Kornylak | 02 Dec 2005 09:12 | Georgia, United States | | Report spam→
This technology should provide some solutions to digital storage when it becomes available. Looks impressive.

http://www.maxell-usa.com/Content/Pages/Page.asp?Section=pressreleases&department=maxellusa_pr&Line=datapr&Open=datapr41


by David Dare Parker | 05 Dec 2005 08:12 | Asia, Australia | | Report spam→
We use the LaCie 1TB Big Disk Extreme drive and are very satified. We also have the three year insurance program, where they will replace any drive that goes down. But after read Peter Krogh’s book on DAM Digital Asset management, we will also make an additional back-up of selects on a smaller drive and keep offline in another location.

by [former member] | 05 Dec 2005 09:12 | San Francisco, United States | | Report spam→

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