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Angola cholera pictures posted

Hello all,
I have just uploaded 2 stories from Angola:

a (wide)( as usual, sorry) selection of pictures from the cholera outbreak

and a short series on TB (Tuberculosis).

Comments as usual are welcome.

PS: I will upload another story (in colour this time) from Angola very soon…

www.digitalrailroad.net/bruno

by [a former member] at 2006-06-06 12:54:20 UTC (ed. Mar 12 2008 ) at last, home in Brussels , Belgium | Bookmark | | Report spam→

Very good work, and I think very interesting the use of the sqared (6×7 I guess) medium format for that kind of reportage.
It’s original and it forces to look at the subject. What camera did you use, your Alpa?
Best regards,
Ken

by [former member] | 06 Jun 2006 16:06 | Milan, Italy | | Report spam→
Definitely looks like your project is progressing.

Interesting and direct, very 50’s, especially with the 2 1/4, but so many images makes me feel as though I am looking at outtakes, and the stronger images and any storyline gets lost in similars.

All in all a very LS type of piece, committed and compassionate, and what other way is there to be?



by [former member] | 06 Jun 2006 17:06 | new orleans, United States | | Report spam→
Ken,
Thanks. it is all shot with Hasselblad. 6×6

by [former member] | 06 Jun 2006 20:06 | at last, home in Brussels, Belgium | | Report spam→
give me less than 20and i give you a comment…

by Daniel Etter | 07 Jun 2006 14:06 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
Ditto, it would be nice to see a flow from image to image instead of a massive collection of images. Many of the images of people suffering in bed are similar and speak the same message. Why include more than one or two of the best for public view and then privately have the whole thing for editors and clients to look at.

Cheers,
Matthew

by Matthew Williams | 07 Jun 2006 15:06 (ed. Jun 7 2006) | Pine Ridge, South Dakota, United States | | Report spam→
Beautiful images of struggling life, as others of your works; beside the tech info like camera and lenses, i’m interested to know how can u deal with your Self, your memory, what is your etical posture on working with the themes you deal with: just wandering how do u feel when u come back to your western house, have your western food and watch your pictures and sell them and receive money; does your visual memory let u in peace when you are at home? do u give a % to any ngo or planning to create your own??

Well Bruno, i’m asking you that ‘cause i really have no experience in taking images of humanitarian catastrophes, of the war, of the real nothing to feed people, and wandering how one’s feelings are. Thanks

by Dana De Luca | 07 Jun 2006 15:06 | Madrid, Spain | | Report spam→
Matthew and Daniel,
my picture selection on DRR is meant for picture editors to have a choice, to be able to build up a publication the way they feel fits best with their publication; this is not a gallery or an ‘exhibition’ edit; also, these are pictures showing a situation in which 33000 people caught an often lethal disease, so to keep “one or two of the best (images of people suffering in bed) for public view” is just falling very short of the point I am trying to make. I am not an artist or a photographer interested in taking beautiful pictures, I am a photojournalist trying to describe serious humanitarian crisis, some of which are not much documented (in this case, Paolo Pellegrin/Magnum shot the story a week before me, but as far as I know, nobody else did…); I feel it is necessary to provide a substantial number of pictures of a situation/event of that magnitude, destroying the lives of so many…
Dana, this is a long discussion…but an essential one; if you are planning to come to Arles or Perpignan, I would be happy to elaborate…

by [former member] | 07 Jun 2006 16:06 | at last, home in Brussels, Belgium | | Report spam→
Bruno,
I understand your point and I think it is closely connected to Dana´s questions – coming back from such a situation where so many people were and are still suffering is not easy (though, I’ve never seen so much misery myself). Than somebody asks you to edit down to “one or two of the best images of people suffering in bed”. Cynical, isn’t it? But in fact some of your images are beautiful – beautifully composed, beautiful light etc., which is very cynical – or rather paradox – in itself. Yet, I think if you want to make a lasting photograph, a photograph with impact, this is essential. But only to the point where you lose information over content. (I saw one of Pellegrin’s photos on the same subject in a newspaper and I’m sure it will stay in my mind as long as the latter is working properly.) The same thing, for me, applies to a strong edit. While I think you are right that this situation deserves a substantial number of photos, you might lose the message in the mass of images. And that’s what really matters, to get that message across, to tell what these people have to endure.
By the way, I know that DRR is more of an archive than a gallery (at the moment I spent most of my day working on DRR), but you asked for comments, didn’t you?
Daniel

by Daniel Etter | 07 Jun 2006 17:06 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
they made me sad….and that was the point…

by Dominic Bracco II | 07 Jun 2006 21:06 | Hebronville TX / Laredo MX, United States | | Report spam→
Again, I am moved and inspired by your work. Stay safe and keep showing the world what we refuse to see.

by Juan Carlos Delgado | 08 Jun 2006 14:06 | Portland, OR, United States | | Report spam→
ditto

by Dominic Bracco II | 08 Jun 2006 21:06 | Hebronville TX / Laredo MX, United States | | Report spam→
Bruno,
I wasn’t trying to discredit your work by any means. I was just offering the point of view of how a powerful edit can aid in sending a message to the viewer. I feel that your images are very powerful and even though you don’t consider yourself an artist or “interested in taking beautiful pictures” your dynamic compositions help carry the message that you are trying to send. Best of luck with your future projects.

-Matthew Williams

by Matthew Williams | 09 Jun 2006 19:06 (ed. Jun 9 2006) | Pine Ridge, South Dakota, United States | | Report spam→
Matthew, thank you for your comments but don’t worry, I can take criticism…and I understand the point of a good edit, believe me, but I also feel that while there are occasions such as exhibitions or books where you need ultra tight edits, DRR is a window of opportunity to present a broader side of my work to editors or fellow photographers.

by [former member] | 10 Jun 2006 06:06 (ed. Jun 10 2006) | at last, home in Brussels, Belgium | | Report spam→
hello bruno and all ….
look at that….
www.stephanelehr-photos.com/angola
http://www.neuro-graph.com/angola/imprimer/angola.pdf
bye
thank s
stéph

by Stephane Lehr | 10 Jun 2006 07:06 | Bantul, Indonesian Earthquake Zone | | Report spam→
Hi Bruno, Beautiful images… Have a nice Day and nice Publication….

by [former member] | 10 Jun 2006 08:06 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
Apart from my criticism I might add that these are in fact very moving images (I took the time to really click and look through all of them) – as usual.

by Daniel Etter | 10 Jun 2006 09:06 (ed. Jun 10 2006) | Paris, France | | Report spam→
Startling images with a cruel beauty to them. “Schop de mensen een geweten”
Thank you Bruno.

by j | 10 Jun 2006 10:06 | Antwerp, Belgium | | Report spam→
Hi Bruno,

I understand your message to Matthew and Daniel but I do understand them too. Also because to a certain extent I agree with them. Do Editors really need 72 images to choose from? Also in these 72 there is pictures that are far from the power of your opener picture in your ddr site (Francisca, 37, is a patient at the Cazenga MSF….)(incredible picture by the way) and I really think is a pitty if an editor would choose one of them, a good editor wouldn’t but then why take the risk of sending a less personal and powerful message?
I’ll be now rather cynical: It’s not by showing pictures of 20 people suffering, instead of only 2 or 3, in a bed that I’ll understand better the outbreak of cholera in Angola. I can find 20 people in a bed suffering of cholera more or less any summer in any part of Africa (sometimes even in the south of Italy sometimes) so I don’t see how showing 20 will make me understand more or make more the point than 2 or 3. For me the picture
Image ID: 2841798
Source filename: stb200605b_014_10.jpg
is the one that express the most a idea of crisis.
I do like the fact that there is every day life in the Musseques (slums) that make me understand where the problem is and the reason for the outbreak. Seams to me that on that point Bruno did a great job by not only showing the problem and beeing deaper on the news and giving a hint of what is the cause and where the first actions have to be made to solve the problem.

Bye and thks for sharing,

Giovanni

PS: Cu in Arles Bruno

by [former member] | 10 Jun 2006 10:06 | Milano, Italy | | Report spam→
Giovanni, if you join the DR archive you can make a lighbox of your selects and send it to Bruno……its a great editing feature in Digital Railroad. And Evan, if you are reading this, please, a slideshow feature with thumbnails of stories down the left hand side would be a significant addition to DR.

by [former member] | 10 Jun 2006 13:06 | new orleans, United States | | Report spam→
One more thing…these pictures are shot in medium format and some need to be seen a bigger resolution/size than the DRR window will allow to be properly seen, a lot of facial expressions as well as eye directions get lost with the small size…

by [former member] | 10 Jun 2006 13:06 | at last, home in Brussels, Belgium | | Report spam→
Hmmm, probably shouldnt bother to chime in here, Bruno neednt hear this, but as to the rest, consider this small point. While I understand the argument on behalf of tight edits, and I myself tend toward tight edits in all my shoots, I understand Bruno’s thinking here very well. DRR is not a gallery or portfolio display, its purpose is to sell stock. While you may want to reduce a given selection to manageable proportions, there is still need to present many shots because the editors like the option and, more importantly, if one shot is chosen and the rights you assign exclude its use by others, you want to be able to give other buyers the option of running something similar. When I started out in the business, I worked as a “researcher” selling stock for Black Star, and I ran into this kind of predicament all the time. So Bruno’s instincts are correct.


Btw, Bruno, loved the pix. the medium format lends everything a classic dignity. Good argument for exploiting all the tools at our command instead of sticking to one format such as 35mm digital.

by Jon Anderson | 10 Jun 2006 13:06 | Back Home, Dominican Republic | | Report spam→
enjoyed the work…thanks

by Ed Leveckis | 10 Jun 2006 14:06 | New York City, United States | | Report spam→
I don’t care how many photos of this quality I see, they are poignant
and beautiful and attest to the lives of people in circumstances that
should be changed for the better by governments, multi-national
corporations and individuals that are more concerned with their own obscene wealth.
They are a testament to these people, they allow them dignity and
grace and they give voice to their subjects…
“I am here, this is my face you see, I am a human like you”. How can anyone
edit a single one of them.
Bruno, Cristina 2, is just so beautiful…

by lisa hogben | 10 Jun 2006 17:06 | Sydney, Australia | | Report spam→
Super Bruno, le sujet, les photos, rien à dire.

Peut-être un editing un peu plus serré? Et puis DRR c’est chiant pour tout visualiser (pleins de javascript partout, et c’est lent). Enfin ça a déjà été débattu.

PS: j’ai le droit de demander le type de film, Tri-X ?

by Fabien Penso | 11 Jun 2006 00:06 | paris, France | | Report spam→
Yes, Fabien…all shot with Tri-X, what else? ;-)

by [former member] | 11 Jun 2006 07:06 | at last, home in Brussels, Belgium | | Report spam→
No more, I’m a fan. Great work.

by Fabien Penso | 11 Jun 2006 10:06 | paris, France | | Report spam→
Nice work Bruno. Congratulations.
delmi

by Delmi Alvarez | 14 Jun 2006 13:06 | Riga, Latvia | | Report spam→
Hello all,
Thank you again for the various comments…I have just uploaded another series of pictures from Angola, this one being part of my ongoing extensive long-term project about Africa.
Please note that, as was said before, I use www.digitalrailroad.net/bruno as a stock archive, NOT as a ‘portfolio’ or ‘gallery’ website; it is about the story and not about the photographer…for the technically-minded, this story was shot with my 1965 Leica M2 with 24 and 35mm lenses on Fuji NPH400 negative film, scanned on an Imacon.
Sorry to test your endurance with yet another wide selection.

by [former member] | 19 Jun 2006 19:06 (ed. Jun 19 2006) | Bruxelles, Belgium | | Report spam→
Bruno: its never an endurance, at least for me, and i love that you offer a place for others to see the entirety (or near entirety) of a story/place/series
which means a lot to you…i was frankly disenchanted by earlier comments about “editing”: because, frankly, i find it a given that each photographer
has his/her own sensibility and I also view digitalrailroad as an opportunity to view/show an archive: a glimpse into the “working mind” of a photographer…I loved this
series and I loved the other work you’ve uploaded to digital. You need not explain or apologize for the amount of images: i think often (although its my own opinion as
a photographer and as a insatiable and carnivorous swallower of images) that photographers learn more from an entirety of a story more so than a finely honed, edited
“argument” of images. We photograph in and of the moment but these individual moments are part of a larger dna: time spent with a place/person….seeing all the images,
or at least all of the images that you’ve chosen to share billows my own experience of the work. I’ll take a tightly edited story in a magazine and i’ll take (equally) all
the images a photog offers: its the shape-shifting which lends so much depth and clarity to a story and to the work of a photographer. Any time you wish to show “everything” i’ll bite: its sensitive, poetic work,no matter how many photographs there are. A poem or a library: both bite inside me, and that’s enough to know. Thanks, as always, for sharing! :)
cheers, bob

by [former member] | 19 Jun 2006 19:06 (ed. Jun 19 2006) | Toronto (home sweet), Canada | | Report spam→

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Participants

Daniel Etter, Photographer / Writer Daniel Etter
Photographer / Writer
Istanbul , Turkey
Matthew Williams, Photojournalist Matthew Williams
Photojournalist
Seattle, Wa , United States
Dana De Luca, Photographer Dana De Luca
Photographer
Milan , Italy
Dominic Bracco II, gringo Dominic Bracco II
gringo
Mexico City , Mexico
Juan Carlos Delgado, Photographer Juan Carlos Delgado
Photographer
(El Dude)
Portland, Or , United States ( PDX )
Stephane Lehr, Photojournalist Stephane Lehr
Photojournalist
Paris , France
j, j
Antwerp , Belgium
Jon Anderson, Photographer & Writer Jon Anderson
Photographer & Writer
Ocala Florida , United States
Ed Leveckis, Ed Leveckis
New York , United States ( LGA )
lisa hogben, Visualjournalist! lisa hogben
Visualjournalist!
Sydney , Australia
Fabien Penso, Software Architect Fabien Penso
Software Architect
(Nomade)
Paris , France
Delmi Alvarez, photojournalist Delmi Alvarez
photojournalist
(Brussels Photojournalist)
Brussels , Belgium


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