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best flights for bringing dog from kabul to new york

Hi there,

There is a rescued puppy here in Kabul that I am determined to bring back to New York. Got the dog passport (yes, they exist) and all the shots. Wondering if anyone has done this before, and had any suggestions for best flights and airlines to transport dog with me.

The place I used in Kabul for paperwork and shots: Tigger house, exists almost exclusively for the military servicemen who want to send dogs back home. That is a shipping service essentially that costs about $3000.

Not an option here. I want to take the dog with me in the cargo if need be.

If anyone has done any thing similar do let me know what the most amenable airlines might be.

by Omar Mullick at 2011-03-10 07:45:35 UTC | Bookmark | | Report spam→

1st place award for all-time best post title goes to Omar Mullick.

(if you’d managed to work body armor or digital Leicas into the post, there’d be triple bonus scrabble points)

Apologies that I have no useful advice to offer on this subject, but if you do find a way to bring Afghan fighting dogs back to the homebase, can you bring one back for me as well?

by teru kuwayama | 11 Mar 2011 07:03 | New York City, United States | | Report spam→
Omar, my man. Dog gawn it. You could ask Andrea Bruce, she brought a dog back from Iraq.

by [former member] | 11 Mar 2011 07:03 | Tijuana, Mexico | | Report spam→
I would bet it’s easier to bring back a headless, gutted afgan horse soccer ball goat than to save a dog…<<<how many scrabble points?

bro

by David Bro | 11 Mar 2011 08:03 | Orange County, california, United States | | Report spam→
Guys,

This puppy looks like it would be lunch for one of those fighting dogs, it is so small. And the girl who rescued it, is not sure how long she is around.

Anyway, a really nice journo at Christian Science Monitor introduced me to someone who has done this before. They are telling me that I will need to go through Delhi or Islamabad. Also found out that Lufthansa, God bless them, provides the carry case for your dog, when you show up to the airport.

Hilarious. And wonderful.

I’ll let you know how it all goes.

Teru, don’t laugh, you may be on video duty with the 5DmkII when I hand the thing over to my boy.

by Omar Mullick | 11 Mar 2011 10:03 | Kabul, Afghanistan | | Report spam→
right on. standing by with the stabilizer and external audio – but fyi, Delhi and Islamabad are bureaucratic hell holes for all things official – and you are pretty much the posterboy for TSA/immigrations red flags – make sure you have the i’s and t’s triple crossed and dotted.

by teru kuwayama | 11 Mar 2011 16:03 | New York City, United States | | Report spam→
rory stewart did it years ago via islamabad to london, sadly the dog died just before it got on the plane

by [former member] | 11 Mar 2011 18:03 | Christchurch , New Zealand | | Report spam→
Yeah Omar wish you luck man, let us know how it turns out.

Tobie

by BignoseTW | 14 Mar 2011 02:03 | Taipei, Taiwan | | Report spam→
fantastic

by [former member] | 15 Mar 2011 01:03 | on the road, United States | | Report spam→
Hey mate, love this story willing to chip in a few hundred bucks for the flight if you need it?

by Ted McDonnell | 16 Mar 2011 09:03 | Melbourne, Australia | | Report spam→
Omar I have 2 friends who took a dog back from Kabul to Italy… I think both of tham did it with military flights.
I don’t exately know the difference with the US but I remember talking about the story of my dog (I took her from India) with an american and we saw that things are quite similar… so if you have the passport and all the vaccinations, your dog should be fine.
If as I guess the problem from Kabul is that you have a restricted choice of flights and you cannot find a company who allows your dog as a hand bag in the cabin the best thing is to take a military or UN flight. My friends did like this. You just have to find someone with a bit of compassion in the army. It won’t be difficolt… one of my 2 friends had no connection with the army, but she just asked and thay allowed her and her puppy in a Kabul-Milan military flight, so she also avoided any problems with the custum… Will give you her contacts if you need, she will be able to give you more info.
Best of luck! Let us know…
Albertina

by Albertina D'Urso | 18 Mar 2011 14:03 (ed. Mar 18 2011) | Kathmandu, Nepal | | Report spam→
A little off topic but just curious, why so many of you want to bring back dogs from Afghanistan? rare breed?

Thank you

Yves

by Yves Choquette | 18 Mar 2011 14:03 | Montreal, Canada, Canada | | Report spam→
I think we just love dogs.

bro

by David Bro | 18 Mar 2011 14:03 | Orange County, california, United States | | Report spam→
@bro,

It make sens but I’m sure that there is thousand of cute dogs in shelter so why bother to bring one from so far with all the technical and bureaucratic problems that seem to involve…

by Yves Choquette | 18 Mar 2011 15:03 | Montreal, Canada, Canada | | Report spam→
No one person can own all the dogs—-so you make a connection and the bond is too strong to turn away from with that individual dog…in fact, and seems to be the case with Omar, its impossible to turn away.

bro

Jules from the movie Pulp Fiction:

“A dog’s got personality—-that counts for a lot…”

by David Bro | 18 Mar 2011 15:03 (ed. Mar 18 2011) | Orange County, california, United States | | Report spam→
best thread i’ve seen in a long time…

omar, can u please post pics of both the pup and your son when it’s touchdown time!…or send me a message at f-book when u got the snaps :)))))

.would make this father happy to see that :))))))))

by [former member] | 19 Mar 2011 13:03 | Charlotte, NC, United States | | Report spam→
quick update:

in Kabul with a flight booked for this Friday – Ariana to Istanbul. Istanbul to NY.

Dog weighs 5kg, so he might get to hang out in the cabin with me for the second leg of the trip.

Assuming Ariana flies and arrives on time in Istanbul, I have a 3 hour layover to make the second flight.

For anyone who needs this service or wants to try to do what I am doing here, I enclose some information below.

Avoid UAE at all costs and the UK as the dog could go in to quarantine, if you get off the plane. Some flights from PIA allow you to stay on the plane (in the UK in Manchester while the plane refuels) on its way to NY, so that can work. The problem is getting the dog to Islamabad for the PIA flight. Some people have their dogs driven down across the border.

Get all the shots done at Tigger House at Taimany and 3rd Street, Kabul. They provide the Rabies shot and most importantly the Department of Agriculture stamp needed to let the dog out of the country. They also provide the dog with a passport.

Tigger House
phone 0799139503

There are other ways to take dogs: through Islamabad (via PIA) for which you need a transit visa. That is near impossible to get these days – thanks Raymond Davies – unless you have a multiple visit Afghan visa, too. India does not require a transit visa, so you can go straight to the Air India office in Kabul and sort it all out there.

Ariana website says they do not allow dogs to fly on their airlines. As of right now, the dog is cleared to go and the cargo officers at Kabul airport said they do this all the time for Ariana. You have to take the dog and crate to the cargo office a day or so before flight for them to check it out. It goes in as excess luggage.

If you use Tigger House to ship the dog to the US the total charges push upwards to about $3500. They are a great service, but that is not in my budget.

You have to buy a dog carrier case – any supermarket in Shahr e Nau. Take a local and don’t pay more than $4000 Afghanis for the case.

phew – hope this information helps someone down the line. Took me hell and a day to line this up.

A driver the other day here in Kabul who has been helping me out said:

“I have seen you run around for this dog, it is easier to kill a man in Afghanistan.”

Indeed.

Some quick thank yous:

@Albertina, thank you for the pointers and the email on FB. Had I not found this route through Turkey, I would definitely call your friends – military flight sounds ideal, honestly.

@Ted, your kind offer to throw in a couple of hundred bucks is one of the kindest gestures yet that I can recall. I am good on that front so far. Thank you. I am humbled by the expanse of the gesture.

@Yves, I actually do not know what breed the dog is or if he is rare. Looks a little like a border collie to me. Regarding question of why to bring a dog back from here and not adopt one back home. Already did that. Saved two huskies and a wolf hybrid years ago. Ran them on a loft roof in Brooklyn, till I started traveling more, then found them a farm and a couple who didn’t have any kids. My four year old boy wants a puppy and his grandfather promised him one on his fifth birthday. Grandfather passed away last year. I am here.

Just keeping a promise. That simple.

My own take on saving something, locally or abroad?

Just save something. So few people do even that. And nobody or no thing I have ever seen being given help ever asked where the hand came from.

@bob, you bet. I will post some photos here for you.

@Tobie, David – cheers for good wishes.

by Omar Mullick | 19 Mar 2011 18:03 | Kabul, Afghanistan | | Report spam→
“Just save something.” Omar, inspired words— inspired attitude.

by Barry Milyovsky | 19 Mar 2011 19:03 | Manhattan, United States | | Report spam→
@Omar,

I understand, my questioning was purely about curiosity (because seem so much trouble) and absolutely not about “adopt local not abroad”, I’m really not a patriotic person (my dog is a pure boxer from Germany). But it look like a humanitarian (zootarian I should say) action what you are doing. Never been in Afghanistan but I heard that lot of abandoned puppies end their life as food for those amazingly huge fighting dogs. So, by only saving one of them from this terrible ending, worth it.

Yves

by Yves Choquette | 19 Mar 2011 21:03 | Montreal, Canada, Canada | | Report spam→
“Just save something. So few people do even that. And nobody or no thing I have ever seen being given help ever asked where the hand came from.” – That’s going up as my Facebook status for today. Thanks Omar!
Tobie

by BignoseTW | 21 Mar 2011 01:03 (ed. Mar 21 2011) | Taipei, Taiwan | | Report spam→
Hi, I was doing flights in Dubai and Kabul and while transferring passengers I transferred few dogs. You need in Kabul firstly to do vaccinations etc… Contact UNHAS (World Food Programme) as they do flights to Dubai and ask them for procedure. They fly to Dubai three times per week. You need to have standardized dog box you can by in Dubai in pet shops. In Dubai, there is a company, http://www.snoopypets.com/import.html . Ask them exact procedure. You do not need import , just transit to where you go.. Means you need to have conecting flight from Dubai to where you go. In Kabul you should contact any military who posses dogs and I am sure there is veterinarian who can “prepare” dogs for travel …

by Luka Baljkas | 21 Mar 2011 17:03 | Zagreb, Croatia | | Report spam→
forgot, all in all its quite expensive …

by Luka Baljkas | 21 Mar 2011 17:03 | Zagreb, Croatia | | Report spam→
Wow, thanks for this thread. Have seen some of the saddest, cutest puppies here and thought about adopting one, so this is really helpful!

by [former member] | 23 Mar 2011 17:03 | Kabul, Afghanistan | | Report spam→
For Bob

http://www.flickr.com/photos/80589046@N00/5681052492/in/photostream/

by Omar Mullick | 02 May 2011 18:05 (ed. May 3 2011) | brooklyn, NY, United States | | Report spam→
Omar, this made me grin! Thank you so much for posting the pic. Fucking great.

by Erin Siegal McIntyre | 03 May 2011 04:05 | Tijuana, Mexico | | Report spam→
Omar, you are a gentleman of the finest order. Congrats on a successful conclusion to an awesome adventure!

by [former member] | 03 May 2011 20:05 | Brooklyn, United States | | Report spam→
OMAR! :)))…my stupid flickr account was de-activated….so, give me 24 hrs for it to be re-activated :)))…can’t wait to see these :))

and i agree with Alan…you are a gentleman of the finest order! :)))

hugs
b

by [former member] | 04 May 2011 02:05 | Charlotte, NC, United States | | Report spam→
wow! :))))))))….so, just opened a 2nd account just to see this beauty!…

well, as i told u before, your son is so beautiful and that magical white beauty with the gorgeous paws looks devine…and i know what he’s dreaming about:

how the hell did i get so lucky with the Mullick family…

if more were like you omar, the world for dogs and people would be a better place…

u made my night…and show my son :))

مشكور مشكور
:))
big hugs
bob

by [former member] | 04 May 2011 02:05 | Charlotte, NC, United States | | Report spam→

Omar-seeing the photo and reading this story has just lowered my blood pressure. In this world of continuing (too much) drama what a relief to read your story. I’m certainly glad your pup has made it home and I can see he’s in good hands.

by John Robert Fulton Jr. | 04 May 2011 12:05 | Irving, Texas, United States | | Report spam→
… Just posted a few more pictures on the flickr page.

Thanks everyone for all the emails and comments.

Here is the short version:

Kabul to Istanbul – 8hr Arianna delay: dog dehydrated, hungry.

Get to Istanbul, they can’t find dog. when they find him he has broken the crate and it is being held together with scotch tape and a paper clip where the old lock was.

Stay overnight in Istanbul with some friends. He tears my friend’s girlfriend’s hand wide open when he gets out of the leash to chase some Turskish cats roaming around the Bosphorous.

Get a new lock, some more scotch tape.

Take crate to airport. Let him run around airport a little bit. Get yelled at. Feed him Turkish pastry and check him in to luggage.

Arrive at JFK – get absolutely no hassle whatsoever from Homeland Security even though my foreign, British passport has a photo of me bearded and, well, the name Omar on it. This is a first.

“Was that worth it” the guy says to me who checks my passport.

“Tell you in about ten minutes,” I say, “my son is on the other side.”

Show dog passport to customs and then take him around the corner and hand him over to my boy, who forgets I am there and is stunned at the dog I keep telling him is now his.

“He’s for me” he keeps saying

“yes”

….Pashto proverb: “Who loves, labors”

by Omar Mullick | 04 May 2011 22:05 | brooklyn, NY, United States | | Report spam→
OK, Omar, all our dog-loving hearts have melted. And hats off to you for your own big heart and tenacious effort.

But there is an important piece of info missing (or maybe I missed it along the way)…what is the dog’s name?

by [former member] | 05 May 2011 16:05 | Washington, DC, United States | | Report spam→
Good story and an very kindly action. And yes, me curious too about the passport name of your son’s dog. I hope you haven’t to put something like Joe to avoid suspects like with your name. Maybe Victorio would be an option if your son choice a new one :)

by Hernan Zenteno | 05 May 2011 18:05 | Buenos Aires, Argentina | | Report spam→
Name: “Puppy Jan”

In Dari, Pashto, Urdu you add ‘Jan’ on the end of a name as a term of endearment, affection [literally, translates to ‘life, beloved’]

Erin, the journo friend, who initially rescued the dog wanted to keep it simple and not get too attached, as she was not sure how this would all play out.

We all got attached, anyway. I re spelled the name ‘Poppy Jan’ for the passport so as not to be the laughing stock with Afghans in Kabul on the way out. I am sure they thought I was crazy, anyway.

I asked my son if he wanted to rename the dog. I thought he would.

He said no.

@ Herman, ‘Victorio’ might have been good, but human names on dogs always freaked me out a little bit, to be honest

by Omar Mullick | 05 May 2011 19:05 | brooklyn, NY, United States | | Report spam→
Name: “Puppy Jan”

In Dari, Pashto, Urdu you add ‘Jan’ on the end of a name as a term of endearment, affection [literally, translates to ‘life, beloved’]

Erin, the journo friend, who initially rescued the dog wanted to keep it simple and not get too attached, as she was not sure how this would all play out.

We all got attached, anyway. I re spelled the name ‘Poppy Jan’ for the passport so as not to be the laughing stock with Afghans in Kabul on the way out. I am sure they thought I was crazy, anyway.

I asked my son if he wanted to rename the dog. I thought he would.

He said no.

@ Herman, ‘Victorio’ might have been good, but human names on dogs always freaked me out a little bit, to be honest

by Omar Mullick | 05 May 2011 19:05 | brooklyn, NY, United States | | Report spam→
Name: “Puppy Jan”

In Dari, Pashto, Urdu you add ‘Jan’ on the end of a name as a term of endearment, affection [literally, translates to ‘life, beloved’]

Erin, the journo friend, who initially rescued the dog wanted to keep it simple and not get too attached, as she was not sure how this would all play out.

We all got attached, anyway. I re spelled the name ‘Poppy Jan’ for the passport so as not to be the laughing stock with Afghans in Kabul on the way out. I am sure they thought I was crazy, anyway.

I asked my son if he wanted to rename the dog. I thought he would.

He said no.

@ Herman, ‘Victorio’ might have been good, but human names on dogs always freaked me out a little bit, to be honest

by Omar Mullick | 05 May 2011 19:05 | brooklyn, NY, United States | | Report spam→
Amazing story, what a nice, humane gesture. Good on you…!!!

by Ethan Knight | 05 May 2011 20:05 (ed. May 5 2011) | Auckland, New Zealand | | Report spam→
Korean Air.
It would be most welcomed.

by L--T | 07 May 2011 20:05 | Hokkaido, Japan | | Report spam→
I’m not sure anout the US, but here in Australia there is a lengthy quarantine period for people bringing animals into the country…like 3 months. And at $30 per day, its expensive…$2700.

by Stephen Asprey | 08 May 2011 02:05 | Sydney, Australia | | Report spam→
Thank you Omar, you made my day with this posting. Having brought in a white stray dog from Spain myself, I know the feeling. Name: Blanca. A wild, happy-go-lucky creature, who is chasing all the rabbits, ducks and cats on the outskirts of Amsterdam, where I live. Have loads of fun and greetings from Amsterdam to you, your son and Puppy Jan :-)))

by Rosa Verhoeve | 08 May 2011 09:05 | Amsterdam, Netherlands | | Report spam→
Omar! :))))….just looked at the newest pics….Puppy Jan rocks! :)))

I nominate him as OFFICIAL LIGHSTALKERS MASCOT…..

any objections…i thought not…

Teru, can y’all work up a LS t-shirt with his pic on the front….i’d be down for scoring one asap! :)))

off for mothers day

by [former member] | 08 May 2011 15:05 | Charlotte, NC, United States | | Report spam→

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Omar Mullick, Omar Mullick
Brooklyn, Ny , United States
teru kuwayama, I/O teru kuwayama
I/O
New York , United States
David Bro, freelance editorial David Bro
freelance editorial
Orange County , United States ( LAX )
BignoseTW, Videographer/Photographer BignoseTW
Videographer/Photographer
(Tobie Openshaw)
Taipei , Taiwan
Ted McDonnell, Ted McDonnell
Melbourne , Australia
Albertina D'Urso, Documentary Photographer Albertina D'Urso
Documentary Photographer
Amalfi , Italy
Yves Choquette, Photojournalist Yves Choquette
Photojournalist
Montreal , Canada
Barry Milyovsky, totally unprofessional Barry Milyovsky
totally unprofessional
(emperor of ice cream )
New York , United States
Luka Baljkas, Aviation/Photography Luka Baljkas
Aviation/Photography
(baljkas.com)
Zagreb , Croatia
Erin Siegal McIntyre, Photographer & Writer Erin Siegal McIntyre
Photographer & Writer
Tijuana , Mexico
John Robert Fulton Jr., Photographs John Robert Fulton Jr.
Photographs
Spring Lake, Michigan , United States
Hernan Zenteno, Photographer Hernan Zenteno
Photographer
Buenos Aires , Argentina ( EZE )
Ethan Knight, Documentary Photographer Ethan Knight
Documentary Photographer
(www.ethanknight.org)
Bangkok , Thailand
L--T, Helipilot ATPL(H)CPL/IR L--T
Helipilot ATPL(H)CPL/IR
(Hokkaido. Japan)
Hokkaido , Japan
Stephen Asprey, Photojournalist Stephen Asprey
Photojournalist
(Visual Journalism)
Sydney , Australia
Rosa Verhoeve, photographer Rosa Verhoeve
photographer
Amsterdam , Netherlands ( AMS )


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