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Digital Railroad doomed?: Anyone know of alternatives?

I pulled this off a blog (Photo Business
and News Forum) forwarded to
me by a DR friend after receiving a
troubling corporate/legalese message
from DR this morning. Anyone have
any ideas of other similar services?
There are a lot of other useless
services I could do without but DR
has been a good tool.

Two of my agents store their archives
on this service. Uh oh.

Read on:

Wednesday, October 15, 2008
Digital Railroad Likely Being Liquidated

In a move that was more of a “when will it happen?” than a “will it happen?”, Digital Railroad announced today a slew of seismic changes that illustrates that the wheels of the train that went round and round are slipping off their axles. Last August, we wrote about the DRR experience – (Digital Railroad – All Aboard?, 8/20/07), and began our summary with the sentence “Digital railroad of course, must serve itself (and it’s investors)”, and we’ve been following very closely what’s been happening with them. So, what now?

DRR’s investors’ final action was to move CEO Charles Mauzy from the position of CEO to just another employee (no doubt with a decent retainer pay structure) to facilitate DRR’s liquidation strategies. Mauzy just changed his Facebook profile, writing “Charles left his job as CEO at Digital Railroad.” – see here. Maris Berzins, changed his Facebook profile moments ago to read "Maris left his job as President at Digital Railroad. ", followed moments later by "Maris is looking for new opportunities. " The board has now retained Diablo Management, a firm known for liquidations, to shop the entire company, as is, around, or to sell off the company in parts.

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Investor Mike Brooks, a general partner at venture capital firm Venrock Associates is no doubt looking at his exit strategy. Brooks previously was with Morgan Stanley & Co., where he was a managing director responsible for the firm’s investment banking activities. Hmmm, perhaps he brought Morgan Stanley’s failing high-risk investment strategies to Digital Railroad?

Also assessing his exit strategy is board member Ken Gullicksen. Gullicksen is a general partner at Morgenthaler Ventures, based in Menlo Park California. His eyeballing the closest exit door no doubt comes as good news to the boards imeem, Danal, Nominum, and Voltage Security, where he also serves as a board member. More time for them – but is that a good thing?

The late-comer to the party, with series B overseas funding, was Steven Schlenker, the chief investment officer ofDN Capital Limited, where he is responsible for overseeing the company’s compliance and financial responsibilities, looking after DN Capital’s early stage investment strategy. This failed investment no doubt serves as a bit of a stumble for Schlenker, and his upstart VC firm.

One thing is for certain – This is a huge blow to Evan Nisselson, founder of Digital Railroad, and his father Peter Nisselson, whom was the principle financier during the formative stages of Digital Railroad’s inception. The elder Nisselson is the Chairman of Star Struck Ltd (OTC: SRSK), which is a publicly traded company, and he has been investing in small companies like DRR since 1982, frequently as an officer. The younger Nisselson got his start with the highly regarded SABA Press Photos back in 1993 through 1995, under the tutelage of Marcel Saba, before SABA was aquired to Corbis back in March of 2000 (AllBusiness: Corbis Acquires Saba Press Photos, InternationalPhotography Agency, 3/2/00). Prior to that, Saba headed up Picture Group, and currently runs well-regarded Redux Pictures. Last November (Stepping Down, or Stepping Up? DRR’s Nisselson Makes A Change, 11/21/07) we wrote about Evan’s promotion to Chairman of the Board. It is rumored that Even has been serving on the board and as Digital Railroad’s public face since last January’s bloodbath of terminations, with over half of the staff being let go, without pay, as an effort to stem the flow of red leaking from the spreadsheets over the last year. DRR was Evan’s Brainchild, and while well intended, has gone awry in recent years.

With the board likely out of the way, and Diablo running the show, let’s take a look at what Diablo’s roadmap looks like. Diablo, headed up by Richard Couch, who founded the company as a liquidation specialist, has likely been tasked with a few things – get back as much of the investor’s $15M that they have sunk into the operations of DRR, is no doubt priority #1. Priority #2, which will likely come in short order, is to slash – and I mean slash – the burn rate. Looking back at the $15M that DRR received last December 31st, which was followed by the laying off of over half of the company (Digital Railroad Makes Major Layoffs, 1/10/08), the remaining half will be likely halved again, to a skeleton crew charged with managing servers, resolving member technical issues, and collecting whatever sales that the Digital Railroad Marketplace (The Marketplace is now Open, 4/11/07) has generated. What isn’t known is whether or not those sales will be distributed to the member photographers who’s images generated the sales. With the restructing last December, and the additional funds that were probably internally deemed “bridge funding”, Mauzy was likely charged with reducing the burn rate as well as continuing the growth of the Marketplace and the number of members paying a monthly fee. This would explain the challenges faced by several trade organizations that DRR has committed to sponsorships with, in securing full payments for the balance of those deals.

A reasoned look at their burn rate and $15M means that that funding is likely near depleted, so it’s reasonable to expect a very short period of time for the final resolution of DRR – no less than 30 days, and a maximum of 90, but I expect they will surely want everything either closed down or transferred to a new owner by December 31st at the latest. There is a glimmer of hope that Mauzy and Diablo will be able to find someone interested in picking up the company at a fire-sale price and retain it’s normal operations, but that looks unlikely.

What would be the value of DRR’s underlying programming code (sans DRR interface) that could be repurposed? Would the sale of that core coding strip DRR of it’s core operations? At this point, that would gut DRR of it’s core, and is a highly unlikely sale – likely only in the waning days of a void of buyers. It can be reasonably assumed that the investors will never see their original $15m, but are hoping for between $5m and $10m. In this market, that’s also not likely. Capital is scarce, and getting back 50% of an investment in high tech these days just isn’t going to happen, and there’s a big “maybe” next to $5m, or a 25% salvage of the original investment.

What’s next? Well, there remains one platform in the field now (assuming DRR doesn’t remain as a platform and run by a new buyer) – PhotoShelter, who recently shuttered their image licensing operation – The PhotoShelter Collection (see PhotoShelter Collection To Shut Down October 10th, 9/11/08). If I were a Digital Railroad subscriber (and I am – Digital Railroad, PLUS, and A Stock Sale, 6/17/08), I would be making darn sure I was downloading all of my needed files immediately, if for no other reason than to have a backup of them (even if they remain in operation), but I would also be sure that any monthly or annual fees are not billing to your credit card in the coming weeks as they work to liquidate or sell.

As I said when PhotoShelter closed their collection, I am saddened by this turn of events too. I have been a supporter of both platforms, and this is one less capability that has served the photographers that used it well.


by [a former member] at 2008-10-16 12:24:26 UTC (ed. Oct 29 2008 ) Tokyo , Japan | Bookmark | | Report spam→

Hi James,
The only other platform i know of any where near as good is the Image File
www.theimagefile.com they also have an open sales platform where you set the price either Licensed or RF, it also has client folders that can be kept private and event galleries for prints to customers that can be password protected.
It can also be set up like an agency as well with multiple ftp uploads, the downside is its in the UK so if you are in the states you will be paying a lot more than DRR.
There is a whole host of features to many to mention as well and there reliability is excellent
Hope this is of help for some people

Gary

by Gary Austin | 16 Oct 2008 22:10 | Derby, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Thanks Gary, I checked out www.theimagefile.com and they look good, especially individual photographer’s snappy intro pages. Pricing is not bad at all either, no matter whether you’re in the UK or US or wherever. However, their storage option of a “generous” 5 GB of image files is nowhere near enough and seems to be a virtual stock agency like the ex PhotoShelter Collection and soon-to-be-doomed DRR.

I never really ever had many sales through DRR’s Marketplace so I’m not that interested in their sales strategies, but rather the ability to send my own existing clients lightboxes with download access especially when I’m out on the road. I believe that is PhotoShelter’s specialty and if DRR goes down, I expect lots of refugees will be moving over to PS as I am (or theimagefile) though not really looking forward to captioning/keywording 3000 images all over again…

Any other alternatives out there, besides Smugmug or Flickr? I have never understood the layout or user- unfriendly Pbase and anyway I don’t think any of these offer a good presentation of photographers not access to editors via lightboxes and high-res download permissions. Still wishing that someone in the black will buy up DRR, like Alamy or even PhotoShelter, to give Getty a run for its money while not screwing individual photographers….

by John Lander | 16 Oct 2008 23:10 | Kamakura, Japan | | Report spam→
Photoshelter seems to be the natural alternative. I’ve always preferred their archive system to digital railroad’s. Substantially cheaper to start ($10 a month for 10 gigs storage, I think), private lightboxes, ftp from the site, etc. Their stock collection is gone, but the archive remains. Nothing preventing the archive from disappearing just like Digital Railroad, though.

One other non-photo-targeted option, if all you need is storage and not lightboxes/client access/ftp is Amazon’s S3 service . It’s cheap, extremely reliable, encrypted, and is the very same service that Amazon uses to host it’s own information, which means it’s not going anywhere anytime soon. It’s a bit technical, but there are easy to use programs that work as an ftp-like interface to it.

by M. Scott Brauer | 16 Oct 2008 23:10 | Nanjing, China | | Report spam→
Gary,
Is their open sale platform similar to DRR Marketplace? I did read the blurb on their website, but I found it quite vague and I can’t figure out if when you sign up for a web gallery hosting that gives you the choice to put some/all images on the sale platform, the imagefile library.

by Luc Novovitch | 17 Oct 2008 02:10 (ed. Oct 17 2008) | West Texas, United States | | Report spam→
Hi James. Another thread about this item
http://www.lightstalkers.org/drr-going-under-
The most similar apparently is Photoshelter. The Image file have prices in pounds, too bad for the changing economy of my country and the monetary exchange.

by Hernan Zenteno | 17 Oct 2008 03:10 | Buenos Aires, Argentina | | Report spam→
Any idea who we need to contact at DRR about payments? Is LIsa Short still there?

by [former member] | 17 Oct 2008 05:10 | Seattle, USA, United States | | Report spam→
Please check out WIN-Initiative – www.win-initiative.com

by [former member] | 17 Oct 2008 06:10 | Bangalore, India | | Report spam→
Hi James,

One alternative that has delivered an online service for www.reportdigital.co.uk since 1995 is www.redhouse.uk.com

Cheers

Jonathan

by Jonathan Tallis | 17 Oct 2008 14:10 | Warwickshire, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Hi Luc,
Is their open sale platform similar to DRR Marketplace?
Yes and you don’t need to use their website hosting option either and any stock images don’t count to your quota; you can have as many Mega bites as you want for the stock images. There is code that you get from the platform to include into pages on a website or blog

Also if you shoot video, these can also be uploaded to client areas so you can deliver audio, stills and video…but only stills in the stock area

There is also http://www.thirdlight.com/ but I have not used them

by Gary Austin | 17 Oct 2008 14:10 (ed. Oct 17 2008) | Derby, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Terrible….

by [former member] | 17 Oct 2008 18:10 | rue mélingue, France | | Report spam→
Question is,… How healthy is Photoshelter or the other alternatives out there, financially?

by FANG LIANG | 18 Oct 2008 07:10 | Chengdu, China | | Report spam→
Gary: Wich one of the services is the one you are referring as “Yes and you don’t need to use their website hosting option either and any stock images don’t count to your quota…”

by [former member] | 18 Oct 2008 08:10 | Santiago, Chile | | Report spam→
Hugo: Hi sorry, I was referring to the image file http://www.theimagefile.com

by Gary Austin | 18 Oct 2008 11:10 | Derby, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Hi Guys,

Part of this discussion seems to assume that DRR
is no longer up and running. My DRR page is still
functional. So, at least as of today, the demise
of DRR apparently is not yet sealed.

Regarding Photoshelter, which I do not use, the
initial blub I posted indicated that it was in worse
shape than DRR.

Has anyone got any information better than secondhand
accounts of DRR’s current and future state of affairs?

I would like to think that its demise is not a fait
accompli.

Cheers,

James.

by [former member] | 18 Oct 2008 14:10 | Tokyo, Japan | | Report spam→
Those of you who are interested in the archive function elsewhere, I quote, We’re also working on a solution to help facilitate migrations for DRR customers – expect more on this in the coming week. at PhotoShelter.

Fang, having a Photoshelter account, I have thought about the question. I realize that one thing going for PhotoShelter is that they have been better organized in closing down PhotoShelter Collection than the way DRR is doing now. The DRR e-mail indicates that they themselves don`t know what they are doing or how they close down the operation. In other words, they are in disarray. I wish I knew more the financial health of PhotoShelter, but recalling PhotoShelter`s announcement in September, I feel that PhotoShelter is more secure.

by Tomoko Yamamoto | 18 Oct 2008 14:10 | Baltimore, MD, United States | | Report spam→
That initial blog has been updated and expanded for
those interested.

http://photobusinessforum.blogspot.com/2008/10/digital-railroad-likely-being.html

I would like to think that the evolution
in our business would ensure such a useful
service would garner the demand and market
that would mean no turning back to the former
pre-DRR, pre-Photoshelter days.

In the worst case scenario, it could be akin to
losing the mobile phone and going back to land lines.
Hopefully, that scenario can be avoided and
this valuable service continued.

by [former member] | 18 Oct 2008 14:10 | Tokyo, Japan | | Report spam→
Thank’s, Gary

by [former member] | 18 Oct 2008 15:10 | Santiago, Chile | | Report spam→
They have sent me an email saying that they are closed down with immediate effect.

What happens to the presumably hundreds of thousands of images they have?!

by Marcus Adams | 28 Oct 2008 21:10 | wellington, New Zealand | | Report spam→
Trying to transfer my files now but it doesn’t work. This is a nightmare for those of us in a shite country with a shite connection and lots of shite to do like jump on an airplane in a few hours. Does anyone know how long we have to transfer files? I can’t believe how brusk the email they sent was and how little information about our remaining archives they gave. This is ridiculous.

by Anne Holmes | 28 Oct 2008 22:10 | | Report spam→
Even here in New Zealand it used to take me an hour on broadband to upload 20 images – so I can only imagine the frustration of anyone trying to do it in the field on some iffy connection.

I agree that more notice/info about files and so on would have been helpful.

by Marcus Adams | 28 Oct 2008 22:10 | wellington, New Zealand | | Report spam→
since they’re liquified, they have no obligation to refund photog’s money. images will die, marcus, their assets as a business as seized and they have no responsibility to us.

i really don’t get why there wasn’t more notice. it says all photogs with DRR archives now have 24 hours to download everything.

i doubt that’s even possible, given that everyone is trying to get shit all at once.

by Erin Siegal | 28 Oct 2008 22:10 | New York City, United States | | Report spam→
I presume that they cannot on-sell the images or anything funny like that?

by Marcus Adams | 28 Oct 2008 22:10 | wellington, New Zealand | | Report spam→
didn’t even get 24 hours – I moved all my stuff, but a friend’s stuff seems to be just stuck there, pending…

by Dave Walsh | 28 Oct 2008 22:10 | Dublin, Ireland | | Report spam→
At a loose end?……… store your images on my blog http://omelthedigitalfish.blogspot.com/



by Imants | 28 Oct 2008 22:10 | The Boneyard, Sydney, Australia | | Report spam→
Well it’s official now.. just got an email from them, suppose you guys have as well.

by [former member] | 28 Oct 2008 23:10 | Bogota, Colombia | | Report spam→
I can’t download or ftp transfer anything. Game Over.

by Anne Holmes | 28 Oct 2008 23:10 | | Report spam→
We are just deleting. Uff.

by Patricio Valenzuela | 29 Oct 2008 00:10 | Satiago, Chile | | Report spam→
Anyone had sent an email to DRR regarding this issue that we can not download the damn things? Any answers from them?

by [former member] | 29 Oct 2008 00:10 | Santiago, Chile | | Report spam→
Well. All is gone, let see the alternatives, that was the original post. Any ideas or similar websites like the death DRR? I have the opportunity to not run fast to PS so i will like to chew other options. Any?

by Hernan Zenteno | 29 Oct 2008 00:10 | Buenos Aires, Argentina | | Report spam→
Hugo,

Envie un mail hace rato y me reboto (desde 4 o 5 destinatarios), creo que no hay mucho que hacer mas que ver la opcion de PS, saludos y cuida tus archivos. Pato

by Patricio Valenzuela | 29 Oct 2008 00:10 | Satiago, Chile | | Report spam→
So sudden, and no official warning or help you transfer your stuff…

I supposed they wanted to save money, and not wanted to have to pay for all that bandwidth, or have their server crashing with everyone off-loading at the last minute….

by FANG LIANG | 29 Oct 2008 02:10 | Kunming, China | | Report spam→
Digital RailRoad’s top brass were irresponsible and unprofessional in the way they have handled this. It is ok if they couldn’t find funding, but they should have given us a few days to make the transfer—not a few hours—and notified everyone in an email. The fact that they called themselves a ‘professional archive’ is laughable. You simply don’t do business this way. It is criminal. They owe me money.

by Davin Ellicson | 29 Oct 2008 04:10 (ed. Oct 29 2008) | New York, NY, United States | | Report spam→
I propose a group law suit

by [former member] | 29 Oct 2008 04:10 | Santiago, Chile | | Report spam→
Agreed. We should have been able to download the entire contents of the archive at one swoop, instead of in 48-image installments. Deleting stuff is now so time consuming as to be impractical.

How are VII, Redux, and the other agencies being treated?

by [former member] | 29 Oct 2008 04:10 | New York, United States | | Report spam→
They are like us: fucked up!

by [former member] | 29 Oct 2008 04:10 | Santiago, Chile | | Report spam→
what about IPNSTOCK.COM – anyone know if they are worth the money they charge? how well do they sell the stock? do they sell stock?

by viviane moos | 29 Oct 2008 04:10 | new york, United States | | Report spam→
I register in DRR one month and half ago, i pay the connection fee… and also already two months, since i start to hear the voices (soon after i decided to go with them…) i started to ask but no replies.
I pay two days ago my month fee and i do hope my visa will not be used by them anymore, how can we preserve that??
Well they should have told me 40 days ago… I would not sign in….. irresponsible for sure is the the word to use…..
I am lucky as i do have a photoshelter account as well but i can imagine agencies ….

daniele

by [former member] | 29 Oct 2008 04:10 | Shanghai, China | | Report spam→
I missed the window for ftp transferring to PhotoShelter on Tuesday. I received the final email from DRR and immediately set up up a PhotoShelter account but none of my transfers even begun. DRR was already dead. I’ve just spent the last few hours beginning to set up my new PhotoShelter account and I actually like it better than DRR. The new customizable website feature is great. All will be ok, but I cannot imagine how VII, Redux, Grazi Neri etc. are dealing with this where literally ten of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of images are involved.

by Davin Ellicson | 29 Oct 2008 05:10 | New York, NY, United States | | Report spam→
The explanation that should have come from DRR—Photoshelter gives an update and extends a warm welcome: http://blog.photoshelter.com/

by Davin Ellicson | 29 Oct 2008 05:10 (ed. Oct 29 2008) | New York, NY, United States | | Report spam→
Digital Railroad was taken over by a liquidation firm a few weeks ago. And why did we not hear of this then?

by Anne Holmes | 29 Oct 2008 05:10 | | Report spam→
Anne -

Sorry for the pitch here, but if you add the RSS for Photo Business News, you would have known last week of the dire situation.

James -

Please refrain from taking my entire article and post it, that’s bad form.

by John Harrington | 29 Oct 2008 06:10 | Washington DC, United States | | Report spam→
John,

You wanted to inform and help people.
I wanted to inform and help people.
\Let’s not turn on ourselves. I clearly
claimed no credit.

Your words were invaluable and I credited the
source. Even though this is not journalism,
I feel it was proper and germaine to pass on
the information and credit your blog.

It is now time to move on to Photo Shelter,
I guess. So, without further ado, I am
OUT OF HERE.

Cheers,

James.

by [former member] | 29 Oct 2008 07:10 | Tokyo, Japan | | Report spam→
Hello, i move to photoshelter now it’s the same of DRR not hesitate….

by [former member] | 29 Oct 2008 07:10 | rue mélingue, France | | Report spam→
no discussion!! freelancers that is what we are, independent that is what we are, so why not running you own server and database ??

by [former member] | 29 Oct 2008 07:10 | The Hague, Netherlands | | Report spam→
Hey Robert you’re Millionnaire????

by [former member] | 29 Oct 2008 07:10 | rue mélingue, France | | Report spam→
no discussion!! freelancers that is what we are, independent that is what we are, so why not running you own server and database ?? "

Which hardware requirement, software and financials ?

Otherwise that is maybe the safest way to go. Nearly.

by Daniel Legendre | 29 Oct 2008 08:10 (ed. Oct 29 2008) | Paris, France | | Report spam→
Daniel,

I was thinking of how to host the photos on your own site….

I came across this application which I have not tried yet..It’s called Gallery 2, a open source web based photo album organizer. (http://www.gallery2.org/).

or read this plink post … (http://lifehacker.com/software/digital-photos/hack-attack-host-your-own-photo-gallery-with-gallery2-218755.php)

I would love to hear some suggestion on how to do this… There should be a lot of other tools out there for a Di-It-Yourself solution.

by FANG LIANG | 29 Oct 2008 08:10 | Kunming, China | | Report spam→
How about Flickr?

I heard pro-photogs that frown on it, it being so “amateur” and all….but I love it. I have not use it for business, but found it super easy to use as online storage/backup. It have it’s limitations, but it’s only like $20-30 a year, unlimited.

With the recent deal that it had signed with Getty, I think it have the possibility of being a big player in this market…

by FANG LIANG | 29 Oct 2008 08:10 | Kunming, China | | Report spam→
why we are heading to this. Don’t you we make pressure on DRR and get all our pixs?

by [former member] | 29 Oct 2008 08:10 | Santiago, Chile | | Report spam→
At this rate, putting galleries on Apple’s Me.Com will become a valid option!

Fortunately DRR only had copies of my stuff so no need to move it per se – I will have to upload it again to a new home I guess – and photoshelter is most likely so far.

by Marcus Adams | 29 Oct 2008 10:10 | wellington, New Zealand | | Report spam→
Marcus, keep in mind that you’ll need to spend the time both downloading and uploading, which may or may not be a burden depending on your connection/computer/time. The direct DRR to PS transfer, if it continues to work, make it so you don’t have to monopolize your own connection and processor power and disk space.

by M. Scott Brauer | 29 Oct 2008 10:10 | Nanjing, China | | Report spam→
You’ve got 24 hours to pull off as much caption/keywordinginfo as possible ( After that the servers will switch off). Downloads don’t work so if like me you’ve only got a small portion of your material off the site. You’ll need to grab low res and cut and paste them into a word document along with all the caption/keywording information. Long winded but quicker than redoing all the original info.
Hope that helps.
Tom from the Bizarre Archive

by Tom Broadbent | 29 Oct 2008 14:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Whoa……I think the message is that we don’t put our material up on servers that we don’t control, especially without assurances that material will be deleted if the ceases operation as has happened with DRR.

Put up material on Flickr at your own risk…..look at the attempt with “orphan works” to grab content.

by [former member] | 29 Oct 2008 16:10 | | Report spam→
Well, i decided to make my own website with gays i can trust in. The website works well. I feel more comfortable with this option. I upload pictures and changed everything on it easily. Customers make an account and download pictures. Il you are interested send me an email on my private adress or from the contact section of the website : http://www.disvoir.net

cheers

Olivier

by Olivier Vogelsang | 30 Oct 2008 09:10 | Geneva, Switzerland | | Report spam→
Yeah. Gotta trust those gays! ;-)

by Marcus Adams | 30 Oct 2008 10:10 | wellington, New Zealand | | Report spam→
I am just amazed that these guys of DRR don’t give us a chance to migrate our archives. This is just outrageous!
Money, money, money! They really live in a bloody world, these B….

by Karl Blanchet | 30 Oct 2008 15:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Karl

FWIW, it’s not the guys of DRR who have forced this situation;it’s the guys who have taken over
DRR who are determining the timeframe.

by [former member] | 30 Oct 2008 16:10 | Montreal, Canada | | Report spam→
Mark,

Still it is the former executives of DRR that lost control of the company who should be blamed in the end. They kept running the company with a high burn rate, that was partly or mostly due to their own high salaries. That was probably why they could not stop the bleeding of the company.

Of course, you are right about the timeframe being determined by the liquidators.

by Tomoko Yamamoto | 30 Oct 2008 16:10 | Baltimore, MD, United States | | Report spam→
Mark,

You’re absolutely right. The administrators are calling the shots and whilst it’s easy to blame DRR for what’s happened, if it was left to them they would have made sure that everyone would have had a decent amount of time, like 28 days minimum.

All the staff at DRR have been sacked, some of whom are owed thousands of pounds in pay. I’m sure that is reflected in the US as well. I’m not talking about executives either but hard working managers and tech guys, some of whom are photographers as well. Basically everyone loses.

The liquidators are Diablo management which pretty much says it all really.

by Tom Broadbent | 30 Oct 2008 16:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Well, ok, but the DRR guys did manage things obviously in such a way that they suddenly had to give it up to Diablo Management. So, it really is DRR’s fault. They might not be the ones forcing the time frame at this point, and I am sure if they could they would allow us more time to migrate, but the DRR people are responsible for letting things get out of control and having to let go. Why is PhotoShelter the one giving all the updates?! DRR’s former CEO should be working all day and all night right now to help everyone and sending out updates. He should have suggested in a mass email 2 weeks ago that we all begin migrating to PhotoShelter. I really don’t understand him. He seems to have gotten embarrassed when he learned of his own company’s implosion and ducked out the back door. The fact that he let down VII, Redux, Grazia Neri is despicable. It is ok to run out of money. I can understand that in this current economy, but not to be up front and inform everyone is grossly irresponsible. Even the short email to us: “To our valued members and partners” seems disrespectful. If we are valued members then why didn’t you properly inform us and why are you shutting down the servers so quickly? It’s as if they really don’t take us seriously.

by Davin Ellicson | 30 Oct 2008 16:10 (ed. Oct 30 2008) | New York, NY, United States | | Report spam→
It is totally bloody annoying I agree. I had the pleasure of meeting Evan at Perpignan this year and he came across as a really nice bloke. Plus his product was great. Surely that technology can’t be that difficult to replicate. Just keep it simple. low overheads. The money was coming in from subscribers every month. How hard can that be? Don’t need marketplace, just solid , simple, pro gallery site. Don’t let VC’s anywhere near it. Anyone out there fancy doing it?

by Tom Broadbent | 30 Oct 2008 17:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Last update received from PS:
“Update: As of last night, Diablo Management has provided PhotoShelter’s management with more clarity regarding the timing of the DRR server shutdown.We anticipate that the DRR servers will cease to operate on 11:59 PM, October 31, 2008.
During this time,you should anticipate compromised ability to access and export your images from DRR given the intensive load being placed on DRR’s limited
infrastructure.As of this morning, we have unfortunately seen many corrupt files
arriving from DRR, as well as image files arriving marked “Image Unavailable”. We
know that DRR team members are now taking steps to help export your images with full file integrity."

Karl

by Karl Blanchet | 30 Oct 2008 18:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
I’m not excusing anyone’s behavior, but I am sure there are legal reasons why DRR management didn’t tell us sooner that the ship was sinking. Investors (banks) drove the dissolution. Once Evan and his crew were sidelined, they could not make statements that would drop the value of the company.

But what they should have insisted on was an orderly, manageable process for DRR’s client base to transition out of the service. That did not happen. Maybe they tried and failed, who knows?

by [former member] | 30 Oct 2008 18:10 | New York, United States | | Report spam→
Hi, for people who paid for a year, do you know if Diablo will refund the difference?

by Cyril Bitton | 30 Oct 2008 18:10 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
Highly unlikely. I paid for the year, too, in August (or, rather, my card was charged automatically for the renewal).

We are pretty low in the hierarchy of the company’s financial obligations. There’s really no incentive for Diablo NOT to screw us.

by [former member] | 30 Oct 2008 19:10 | New York, United States | | Report spam→
Lets see what Allen can do with PS…..maybe its better in the long run.

by [former member] | 30 Oct 2008 21:10 | | Report spam→
Hi John, Your right about all of it. However, so many photogs on the road who where out of touch on stories and what have you, no way could do anything without time. Personally, I was so busy on a story and without wireless and cell phone much of the time that when I found out I began paying someone to do the downloads for me in NY and he cannot get anything, so after a lot of trouble we have given up. Tough to have to do it all over again with some other server. I have two other sites on DRR other than my own that I set up for corporate clients and had to send them an email explaining what had happened, very bad, very frustrating and very unethical.

by les stone | 31 Oct 2008 00:10 | Claryville NY, United States | | Report spam→
I echo Les’s thoughts here. I am on assignment and
have no way to sit for hours downloading my archive.
It is no loss of anything but time (I think) because
I have the jpegs in my own system and backed up multiple
times.

A friend floated something a bit unsettling this
morning to someone like Les and me. Will Diablo
management attempt some funny business with our
images if left on DRR and attempt to expropriate
rights? We never signed away copyrights but
attorneys can be clever, especially well funded
ones.

Any thoughts? Are images safe or does anyone
foresee hazards? Certainly the agencies do not
physically have enough hours to download their
entire archives of hundreds of thousands of images
either…

Just a thought.

by [former member] | 31 Oct 2008 01:10 | Tokyo, Japan | | Report spam→
James,

After backing up my tags and double checking I had all back-up copies of all my images on DRR, I went ahead and deleted all images from DRR. I was able to do this from my site manager as your last message got me thinking those slithering weasels at Diablo Management. Its surprising how you can still work around in your site right now; moving images around, changing publishing options, etc. But in order to delete your images remember that if you have any images in Marketplace you have to transfer them out in order to delete them. Also if there are any images that are “pending” in marketplace you will not be able to delete them.

I now feel a bit more secure in knowing my images are deleted from the site. Hopefully there are no additional b/u’s of the DRR server.

See you back in Tokyo.

Best,

TB

by Torin Boyd | 31 Oct 2008 11:10 | Toyko, Japan | | Report spam→
Hello to everyone, EK Pictures is an independent agency from Poland. We have our own server with our own fully customizable software. We were thinking before about starting a host service for individual photographers. Please check our site www.ekpictures.com.pl to see our layout and login as a guest from Poland to see the search engine (no hires downloading or adding to lightbox for guests, but I can send a screenshot to anyone interested). The administration panel provides adding users and setting their privilages, checking statistics of search and download, making groups etc. Adding images is set through ftp. Right now we don’t have an option for sending images to other ftps, but we are working on it. We are thinking about reasonable fees for hosting, we know the photoshelter fees. Please contact me if you are interested.

by Konrad Grzeslak | 31 Oct 2008 11:10 | | Report spam→
Just spent most of the day trying to migrate my images from DRR to PS. 80% of them have landed on PS corrupted.Waste of time.

by [former member] | 31 Oct 2008 17:10 | Beijing, China | | Report spam→
What bums at DRR. It’s election week in the U.S. and they have let down many prominent agencies, photographers, news organizations and individual editors. Shame on them and shame on them for not taking care of us and ensuring that all of our images are safely transferred before pulling the plug. Some terribly misspent venture capital. Hope the executives who ran the railroad into the ground find themselves up against serious litigation from the big players and are made to be responsible where they have otherwise been irresponsible, negligent and downright uncooperative and ineffective for their clients at a big moment. There are literally hundreds of photographers and editors they have left hanging and they should be made to pay compensation to subscribers for lost revenue.

by Amanda Rivkin | 31 Oct 2008 17:10 | Chicago, United States | | Report spam→
Amanda,
I fully agree with you!!!
I hope the managers will pay for their negligence and lack of courage. One realises how little value and respect companies, DRR amongst others, give to their customers although their blabla may often be “trompeur”.

by Karl Blanchet | 31 Oct 2008 18:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
I hope reiceved payment via DRR market place too, i send more email to Diablo group and no news…

by [former member] | 31 Oct 2008 18:10 | rue mélingue, France | | Report spam→
Sent emails to Diablo too… but no answers…

by Cyril Bitton | 31 Oct 2008 22:10 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
James WD I wrote something in the other post (DRR going under) regarding copyright.

No matter how clever Diablo management are they cannot fuck with your copyright.

You have retained copyright; you did not relinquish it to DRR so Diablo cannot without serious repercussions mess with your images.

I suggest some of you get together and draft a letter of petition and send to Diablo clearly stating your concerns regarding copyright. I would also suggest consulting a lawyer on the matter.
DRR and Diablo may not be legally bound to provide ample time to transfer files but they cannot mess with your images or pass them over to a third party without your consent.
I feel for you all. It’s bad enough having to caption and keyword at the best of times but having to do it all again because of mis-management and negligence is….Shit I would be mad as hell!

Good luck with it all.

M

by [former member] | 31 Oct 2008 23:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Check this out if you have’nt already http://www.lightstalkers.org/drr-next-possible-curve

Maybe a knight in shining armour who may save you all a great deal of stress.

by [former member] | 31 Oct 2008 23:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
James there is a link on the above post that has this portion in the statement. It answers your question regarding Copyright.

“Digital Railroad has received a letter of intent (LOI) to purchase the assets of DRR, specifically its hardware and application software used to store and retrieve images with the desire to continue providing services to DRR members and customers with as little disruption as possible. The Intellectual Property (IP) stored on these servers and owned by members would in any case be preserved.
After the completion of an asset purchase agreement, the acquiring company will contact owners of the images to determine their disposition. The acquiring company will have no right to sell or distribute these images without the owner’s prior approval”.

by [former member] | 01 Nov 2008 00:11 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
From the SAA email regarding possible purchase of DRR I received It sounds like one of the big brothers is looking at a fast grab of images for cheap. Would anyone on this forum trust reincarnated DRR? I for one am ftping my stock back-ups from drives to PS, it make take a while but it looks like a decent platform with maybe some room to grow. My stuff sent directly to PS from DRR was all corrupted… not nice.

by Christopher Beeger | 01 Nov 2008 00:11 | Calgary, Canada | | Report spam→
Trust. I don’t remember invoking the words of Alberto
Gonzalez but we are in a cynical moment. Remember how
he call the Geneva Conventions quaint? I find “trust”
at this point in American history to quote Alberto, as
quaint.

If SAA can keep our DRR archives alive and relatively intact
for another couple of weeks, months, years, I am all for
it. As for trust, I trust Santa Claus, only Santa Claus.

Thanks for the head’s up, Mark. I hope that this can
settle mass exodus for a while.

Cheers,

James.

by [former member] | 01 Nov 2008 01:11 | Tokyo, Japan | | Report spam→
James, you are absolutely right. At least Santa is there for you come snow or shine every year, year after year.

As for DRR servers raising from the ashes here is a excerpt from Diablo’s memo: “The company that has submitted the Letter of Intent is a twenty-year fixture in the industry with ongoing close relationships with the preeminent players in the worldwide information business. It owns a multi-agency digital media marketplace composing more than twenty-five million images, news stories, and video clips which it licenses to five thousand customers who purchase content on a daily basis for insertion into the world’s most prominent newspapers, magazines, web sites, and broadcast services.”

Is this offer sounding like a grab from the big brother spongers ( Getty or Corbis ) or am I just reading too much fiction.

by Christopher Beeger | 01 Nov 2008 01:11 | Calgary, Alberta, Canada | | Report spam→
Fiction, Corbis and Getty are both less than 20 years old……

by [former member] | 01 Nov 2008 02:11 | | Report spam→
Regardless of who may buy the assets of DRR they have no claim on the content and definitely wouldn’t,and couldn’t, be
doing the deal to pick up images at fire sale prices.

Unlike an agency that gets purchased by another the individual photographers images are only under the new owners direction for as
long as remains on the individuals/original agencies contract for representation.
After that expires the photographer is free to move on if so desired.

No photographer, I know of, has committed,contractually,anything more than an agreement for hosting and related services.
Even those participating in Marketplace were free to add and delete content at will.

Corbis nor Getty would have any logical reason to buy the DRR assets.

More likely,it’s someone who sees an opportunity to buy into an archive hosting business at rock bottom prices.

by [former member] | 01 Nov 2008 05:11 | Montreal, Canada | | Report spam→
http://photobusinessforum.blogspot.com/2008/11/from-bad-to-better-likely-acquisition.html

by [former member] | 01 Nov 2008 21:11 | Montreal, Canada | | Report spam→
I note a reference to an email to “Former DRR Customers” in the link above at Photo Business Forum.

I never received any such email.

by Marcus Adams | 01 Nov 2008 22:11 | wellington, New Zealand | | Report spam→
“they have no claim on the content and definitely wouldn’t,and couldn’t, be
doing the deal to pick up images at fire sale prices.”

Still, get your images off their servers asap and then delete everything. My only message and good luck…..fyi my DRR archive still up and running today with just a few images that are ‘pending’ that I can’t delete.

by [former member] | 01 Nov 2008 23:11 | Seattle, USA, United States | | Report spam→
Stuart is right, you can still delete all images from your DRR server. Just checked a few moments ago – when you log into “Account Management”, go to “My Site Production”, then you can begin deleting all your files, except for pending images in Marketplace.

One uncertainty though, do our images exist in server back-ups?

by Torin Boyd | 02 Nov 2008 02:11 | Toyko, Japan | | Report spam→
I put all the pending images into their own group, made it easier to delete all the other images. As for back up servers, I’m sure they have them so who knows.

by [former member] | 02 Nov 2008 04:11 | Seattle, USA, United States | | Report spam→
Currently migrating all my images and it is working after days of failure.
Go for it. It may be the right time.
Good luck!

by Karl Blanchet | 02 Nov 2008 14:11 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
if you’re not interested in selling stock photography or fake attractives marketplaces yet you should give a try to :

http://www.pixmenage.com

Pixménage is a simple application that allows photographers to manage their high resolution pictures workflow, below some details :

*No set-up fees *No membership or time engagement *No fixed plans / features (build your own plan and pay for what you really use) *Gives you the option of hosting your Website or linking your images to an existing site *Low cost and flexible archive *100% seamless customisation for frontend possible

Main features :

  • Affordable and reliable Hosting
  • FTP syndication / import/export ( possibility to create folders and zip them before sending them to the server)
  • High resolution sharing trough link
  • SSL on back-end

We’re a french young start-up but in a good financial shape so you may consider trying our application.
You have 30 days free trial.

Looking forward for your feedbacks.

Best regards,

S.B.

by Stefano Bianchi | 04 Nov 2008 13:11 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
Hi Stefano. I can’t found the prices of the service and pages of actual clients to see how they set up his files or web pages.

by Hernan Zenteno | 04 Nov 2008 14:11 | Buenos Aires, Argentina | | Report spam→
Hello Hernan,
we’re adjusting our pricing, we’ll put them out again in a short while ! thanks for your understanding.

if you want to check some user webpages :

http://www.gianlucatamorri.com/
http://www.eleonoracalvelli.com/
http://www.andreagandini.com/
http://joel-ag.pixmenage.com/
http://danieledainelli.contrasto.it/

Don’t hesitate to skype me if you need further explications (fresbee55)

Best,

Stefano

by Stefano Bianchi | 04 Nov 2008 15:11 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
“if you’re not interested in selling stock photography or fake attractives marketplaces yet you should give a try to :”

Not in a million years would I give my business to a company whose representative leads off with such a dumbass statement

And to not have pricing in place to support your ‘products’ introduction speaks volumes.

by [former member] | 04 Nov 2008 19:11 | Montreal, Canada | | Report spam→
hello Mark,
thanks for your super feedback, what i wanted to say is that we don’t promise such things as DRR and others companies are doing to sell… then leave all the people in deep shit,
we’re a startup and still in a public beta phase, you can try it for free, test the features for free, pricing structure wil be published shortly, our aim is to create a product that works fine, not to pay back a 15M$ lease.. if you see what i mean..
Best,

Stefano

by Stefano Bianchi | 04 Nov 2008 20:11 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
Well no development since November 5, 2007 !

http://blog.pixmenage.com/

by Daniel Legendre | 04 Nov 2008 20:11 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
well after few emails to Diablo to ask them about a refund or something like that ( i was charged for a year just two months before the shut down).
They don’t answered me but that’s what they sent to me this morning.

“November 3, 2008
Thank you for your inquiry regarding Digital Railroad.
Digital Railroad (DRR) retained the Diablo Management Group ( DMG) on October 10, 2008, a nationally recognized crisis management firm to assist in raising operating capital, or if unsuccessful, to terminate business operations. Due to the inability to raise the capital necessary to continue to operate, Digital Railroad (“DRR”) ceased operations on October 28, 2008.
DMG has been attempting to keep the servers at DRR up and running for as long as possible. However, given DRR’s current cash position, DRR can no longer keep these servers operational. Therefore, as early as midnight EST, October 31, 2008, the DRR website will be closed and the images located on the DRR servers will be inaccessible. We apologize for difficulties that this is creating, however, without additional capital investment, we have no other recourse.
Although DRR has received a letter of intent to purchase some of the assets of the company, all monies that have been received are the property of the senior secured creditor. The cash received will not be adequate to satisfy the claim of this creditor. Therefore DRR lacks the cash necessary to pay any additional claim related to hosting services, payments to photographers, or other payables.
With regard to images in Marketplace that have been downloaded and /or used, and for which the publisher has not already made payment, we will work, with the assistance of photographer associations, to get the photographers paid.
At the same time, please submit a statement for unpaid amounts that may be due to you from DRR by December 1, 2008 to:
Digital Railroad, Inc
c/o Diablo Management Group
1452 N. Vasco Road, #301
Livermore, CA 94551
A status report on financial matters will be sent to all creditors in approximately thirty days. Updates on systems, customer property, and potential asset purchase proposal(s) will be posted as they become available.
Please check the DMG website regularly for updates on DRR. "

by Cyril Bitton | 05 Nov 2008 12:11 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
Ok and now we must be pay stamp

by [former member] | 05 Nov 2008 12:11 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
How much are those rat bastards at Diablo Management making out of this liquidation deal? It certainly must be more than what photographers are owed for unpaid marketplace sales and last minute “lobbed in grenade” charges for monthly and yearly dues.

Let’s not forget what the Spanish translation for diablo is:

THE DEVIL

by Torin Boyd | 05 Nov 2008 16:11 | Toyko, Japan | | Report spam→
Torin,
The correct spelling for the devil in Italian is “diavolo.” I don`t have any Spanish dictionary to double-check this, but I do have an Italian dictionary (print version). Here is the Wiki information for Fra Diavolo. The word/name “Diavolo” was used in a Japanese manga which you might have heard. I had learned this name by reading a serial fiction in a Japanese woman`s magazine, the story of which is based in Vicenza, Italy.

by Tomoko Yamamoto | 05 Nov 2008 19:11 (ed. Nov 5 2008) | Baltimore, MD, United States | | Report spam→
http://www.wordreference.com/es/translation.asp?tranword=devil

by Anne Holmes | 05 Nov 2008 21:11 | Istanbul, Turkey | | Report spam→
Thanks, Anne. I stand corrected. I checked my English dictionary! So b and v are interchangeable in a sense. I thought only the Japanese cannot make a differentiation.

by Tomoko Yamamoto | 05 Nov 2008 21:11 | Baltimore, MD, United States | | Report spam→
Belly Funny!

a

by Anne Holmes | 05 Nov 2008 23:11 | Istanbul, Turkey | | Report spam→
Hello. A little late in the day but I have, at last received some correspondence from Diablo. It might be old news by now, but I will paste it below fyr. it ends with an address for those who have reason to claim back owed/unpaid funds

November 3, 2008
Thank you for your inquiry regarding Digital Railroad.
Digital Railroad (DRR) retained the Diablo Management Group ( DMG) on October 10, 2008, a nationally recognized crisis management firm to assist in raising operating capital, or if unsuccessful, to terminate business operations. Due to the inability to raise the capital necessary to continue to operate, Digital Railroad (“DRR”) ceased operations on October 28, 2008.
DMG has been attempting to keep the servers at DRR up and running for as long as possible. However, given DRR’s current cash position, DRR can no longer keep these servers operational. Therefore, as early as midnight EST, October 31, 2008, the DRR website will be closed and the images located on the DRR servers will be inaccessible. We apologize for difficulties that this is creating, however, without additional capital investment, we have no other recourse.
Although DRR has received a letter of intent to purchase some of the assets of the company, all monies that have been received are the property of the senior secured creditor. The cash received will not be adequate to satisfy the claim of this creditor. Therefore DRR lacks the cash necessary to pay any additional claim related to hosting services, payments to photographers, or other payables.
With regard to images in Marketplace that have been downloaded and /or used, and for which the publisher has not already made payment, we will work, with the assistance of photographer associations, to get the photographers paid.
At the same time, please submit a statement for unpaid amounts that may be due to you from DRR by December 1, 2008 to:
Digital Railroad, Inc
c/o Diablo Management Group
1452 N. Vasco Road, #301
Livermore, CA 94551
A status report on financial matters will be sent to all creditors in approximately thirty days. Updates on systems, customer property, and potential asset purchase proposal(s) will be posted as they become available.
Please check the DMG website regularly for updates on DRR.

by Robert Gilhooly | 05 Nov 2008 23:11 | Tokyo, Japan | | Report spam→
Diablo es Espanol, muchachos y muchachas. It is named
after Mount Diablo nearby. I spent my first seven years
of life in Livermore which also plays host to the Lawrence
Livermore Nuclear Lab, which irradiated me in early life
with tritium and was exploding in the open air just outside
of town depleted uranium two decades before it became
readily recognizable to the public in the first Gulf War.

Spanish and Italian, as everyone knows are very closely
related Romance languages.

I agree with Torin at how perversely perfect a name
that is for this corporate ambulance chaser.

Still, my DRR site is still up. So, I for one am holding
out hope.

by [former member] | 06 Nov 2008 11:11 | Tokyo, Japan | | Report spam→
This could mark the end? Here is a link to John Harrington’s
latest post entitled, “NewsCom Opts out of Digital Railroad Asset Acquisition”.

http://photobusinessforum.blogspot.com/2008/11/newscom-opts-out-of-digital-railroad.html

by [former member] | 07 Nov 2008 03:11 | Tokyo, Japan | | Report spam→
it’s cactus

by Imants | 07 Nov 2008 04:11 | The Boneyard, Sydney, Australia | | Report spam→
James, my site is still up too…
Do you reckon there’s hope someone will acquire DRR and keep it running?

by [former member] | 07 Nov 2008 14:11 (ed. Nov 7 2008) | New York, United States | | Report spam→
Awesome!

by [former member] | 07 Nov 2008 17:11 | | Report spam→
I am in!

by [former member] | 07 Nov 2008 17:11 | Santiago, Chile | | Report spam→
Could you (someone?!) please make sure I get the updates as well… for some reason I am not on the list…
vebahood@gmail.com

by [former member] | 07 Nov 2008 17:11 | Montreal, Canada | | Report spam→
Maybe its not the complete list? But I am sorry that I personally haven’t the time to do the Yahoo group, if someone volunteers it is relatively easy to set up, and I am glad to help…..and perhaps we can in some small way influence the outcome of this.

by [former member] | 07 Nov 2008 17:11 | | Report spam→
Andy,

Firstly, what the hell are you doing reposting these e-mail addresses? Let us refrain from duplicating this list online any more than it has to be. There are many vultures reading this thread besides us shooters who are directly affected by the DRR debacle.

In a similar matter, I received a mass e-mail from Michael Millership and Johanna Lindsey MacDougall at IDS Picture Desk in trying to recruit DRR refugees to their service. What was disturbing about it, the complete e-mails of all the DRR subscribers were revealed in the “To List” (the same as above). I promptly wrote Mr. Millership a note about how unprofessional this was, and he quickly apologized for the the error. Has anyone else been alarmed by this?

by Torin Boyd | 07 Nov 2008 17:11 | Toyko, Japan | | Report spam→
Torin, FYI, this is the email list that Millership exposed.

I think the benefits of all the DRR subscribers knowing who they are outweigh the possible inconvenience…..the list is already being distributed or sold by the people you refer to as “vultures,” although I am not sure that is the word I would have used. I believe that the PS people have good intent, but I think its extremely important that those who are affected by the DRR failure have an opportunity to converse.

Together perhaps we can influence the outcome in some way….if there was a lawsuit for example this would be a good place to start. Now I am not advocating that but at least you now know who you all are.

by [former member] | 07 Nov 2008 18:11 (ed. Nov 7 2008) | | Report spam→
I’m not on this list, maybe because I’ve choose not disclose my email when signing up.
Yahoo-groups, it’s ok, or even better a new post here, something like: ex-drr subscribers…
as for the vultures, they also can sign up for the group and take all info from it

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by Adrian Ellis | 09 Nov 2008 01:11 | Ontario, Canada | | Report spam→
Well, I deleted the list— sorry if anyone gets any spam.

by [former member] | 09 Nov 2008 02:11 | | Report spam→
Well more bad news from Diablo, due to the fact that the second buyer has pulled out. They’re going to wipe all the hard drives and flog them. Report here.

http://www.diablomanagement.com/announcements/digital-railroad-inc.html

It’s not known when this will happen.

Tom

by Tom Broadbent | 12 Nov 2008 16:11 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
It’s not the worst thing to happen in what is already a deplorable situation. I want my images wiped from DRR. I know my money’s gone, but I don’t want them holding on to the photos in anticipation of some mysterious buyer.

by [former member] | 12 Nov 2008 16:11 | New York, United States | | Report spam→
It appears as though the Jock and the PS people have been right all along. Digital Railroad’s code is not worth anything…..

by [former member] | 12 Nov 2008 17:11 | | Report spam→
It’s pretty amazing that a company that attracted, and burned through, however many millions of dollars of venture capital has been reduced to a few thousand dollars worth of servers.

by [former member] | 12 Nov 2008 17:11 | New York, United States | | Report spam→
Drinks at Perpignan are not cheap.

by [former member] | 12 Nov 2008 17:11 | | Report spam→
DRR has a nice full page ad in PDN this month…DOA.

by [former member] | 12 Nov 2008 17:11 | Austin, Texas, United States | | Report spam→
Hi James, Thomas. You mentioned in earlier posts that your DRR accounts are still up. Mine is too. I mean, was, till just about now. November 15 (Japan time). How about you guys?

by Robert Gilhooly | 14 Nov 2008 19:11 | Tokyo, Japan | | Report spam→
They’re still up, but they ain’t working right.

by Dave Walsh | 14 Nov 2008 21:11 | Dublin, Ireland | | Report spam→
now all content is gone ("no image available) … Nov. 14 … hmmm. Is this just a coincidence???

by Robert Gilhooly | 14 Nov 2008 21:11 | Tokyo, Japan | | Report spam→
For those who are still looking for a Digital Asset Management system for their own web servers after the closure of DRR, have a look at http://www.montala.net/resourcespace.php . It’s an OPEN SOURCE DIGITAL ASSET MANAGEMENT (DAM) and can runs on mysql and php equipped servers. I’m trying it out now my self.

by Mikael Kjellstrom | 18 Nov 2008 17:11 | Las Palmas, LPA, Spain | | Report spam→
Found another on-line archive service … http://www.spitfirephoto.com I still think that PhotoShelter has most features/customisation for the price but spitfire looks not bad.

by Richard McCaig | 18 Nov 2008 21:11 | Selkirk, United Kingdom | | Report spam→

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Editorial Photographer
Stromstad , Sweden ( GOT )
Richard McCaig, Photographer Richard McCaig
Photographer
(TRAVEL EDITORIAL STOCK)
[undisclosed location].


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