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Do you do video abroad? In the Middle East?

I’m looking to fund my trip abroad and I have a body that I rarely use, except for video. It seems like it would be particularly difficult to move video or find quite as many people that would want it. I could make some money by getting rid of this body or I could hold on to it if its worth holding on to.

Thoughts?

by Mark Kauzlarich at 2012-08-26 01:47:51 UTC | Bookmark | | Report spam→

If it is an old body doing the same quality as a flip video—-get rid of it and get a flip—or consider an olympus omd with a converter for you cannon or nikon lenses—-so you can shoot video and low key details where the fat body would get noticed——I know domestic raw video sells for about 150 bones a minute—international raw—???

bro

by David Bro | 26 Aug 2012 07:08 | Orange County-Los Angeles, United States | | Report spam→
Sounds right:

If the camera body is old and bulky, sell it! Get rid of dead weight, and buy a small camera or even smart phone that does the same video-thing.

In any case, video, if you like it or not, becomes important to master. Clients will one day ask you if you can video-tape something, as they know your gear is (expected) capable of it, and they know you are in a certain location. In that case you say “yes” and start filming…and make a decent movie, just as you would make decent images.

The editing part can be given to a third party though. With some supervision.

There is no reason to fight this trend. I you look like hours through a viewfinder to make images, you must be reasonably capeable of shooting some acceptable video too as long as you don’t shake the camera too much, all the time..is my idea.

by Tom Van Cakenberghe | 26 Aug 2012 17:08 (ed. Aug 26 2012) | Kathmandu, Nepal | | Report spam→
I have a D7000, but the internal mic seems to be broken. Not a big deal because I use a Rode VideoMic Pro or my ZoomH4n.

I heard $1000 a minute abroad in some circumstances. Seems like a cinch for someone like me that knows my way around video, BUT, its still a PITA. I guess I need to talk to the bureau chiefs to see how often they want it and what the process is like.

Sigh, I was really hoping to get a little cash for some other purposes. Oh well.

by Mark Kauzlarich | 26 Aug 2012 17:08 | Wisconsin, United States | | Report spam→
The worst thing about video overseas is having a secure and solid connection long enough to get it all up—-I use a google doc invite—mostly because its free and you don’t have to “join” to see the file—-I think you “send it” is good but then you do have to pay with vids because of the file size——What does everyone else do?


wow, a 1000 bones a minute for international—-I have not seen that but that is very interesting—-probably the first thing it has to have to pull that much is at least one RPG going off—

bro

by David Bro | 27 Aug 2012 01:08 | Orange County-Los Angeles, United States | | Report spam→
That would be 1k for EDITED minute… you can’t send them 2 minutes of raw video, containing one minite of shooting the ground because you forgot to stop recording, and expect 2k. Just saying.

T

by BignoseTW | 30 Aug 2012 02:08 | Taipei, Taiwan | | Report spam→
Oh man, T, thanks for the insight.

Sorry to hear that you had to learn the hard way that you actually get paid for the good work that you do, not the blank frames that you shoot with your eyes closed. I guess I just took that knowledge I had for granted, but I’m glad that you learned it eventually.

… Sorry if I sound a little sore but you don’t have to be ridiculous. Obviously, judging by the work you’re listed as having done, you knew better in the first place but, at least now you can see what it sounds like to just make ridiculous off-the-cuff comments. I’m asking for legitimate input, you could have just said “That would be 1k for each EDITED minute” and left out the part where you assume I’m incompetent.

I’ve had friends in the industry giving me input but I opened the thread to broaden the scope of knowledge. Being new doesn’t mean incompetent.

by Mark Kauzlarich | 30 Aug 2012 03:08 | Wisconsin, United States | | Report spam→
I only take video… here’s what you need to understand.

1. You must master editing your own video and you must be QUICK at it. If you’re filming something, chances are someone else is as well and now you’re off to the races. You have to do quick cuts and renders.

Don’t expect the news agency to do the cutting for you… my laptop edits and renders video faster than most edit bays in “three letter” news stations. You won’t believe the old crapola gear those video techs are working with.

2. Just like in still photography, you must be the absolute master of your camera. Focus, exposure, etc. I’m always thinking ahead and changing settings for shots are I think are coming up. You must practice this until it’s automatic because your brain will be in overdrive or “in the black” in a warzone.

3. Bandwidth is scarce and/or expensive in the field. If you don’t know how to cut/transcode your video, you’re going to have a bad time. Raw video from a Canon T3i makes BGAN cry…. so you must transcode down to some postage stamp resolution and bitrate. Especially if you happen be sharing a Reuters satellite connection :)

4. Major news agencies don’t want heavily edited video…. just cut the video.

5. Combat footage aka “bang bang” is easy to find… your footage has to go a bit deeper.

6. I’ve never been paid per minute… it’s always been per clip or for the entire series. Let’s just say I’ve easily been in the black for the past two excursions.

Stringer video in Southern California sells for approximately $400 per clip at NET 90 terms… you get paid three months later which is a drag. If it’s a blockbuster, then you can negotiate terms. International stuff can go into the thousands…. but you have to be really really really lucky, or put it another way, someone you’re interviewing has to be very very unlucky and get shot in the head during the interview.

7. GoPro footage sells just as well as regular dslr video footage.

8. Keep the camera still… keep the camera still… keep the camera still… don’t go “Jason Bourne” and put in artsy pans/zooms/etc. Just focus, stabilize and record.

Don’t get enamored with promises of thousands of dollars per minute because getting those clips means hours or days of preparation/trust building and mindless boredom.

by Humphrey Cheung | 30 Aug 2012 08:08 | Los Angeles, United States | | Report spam→
Mark, my apologies mate,that was (a) not intended to imply you were incompetent, merely to point out (as our friend Humphrey did up here, much more clearly) that edited, coherent pieces gets paid more than just rough footage straight out the camera. And it was aimed not at you but at grabbing Bro and bringing him down back to earth because he seemd to be getting a little bouncy there. :)

Cheers

Tobie Openshaw

by BignoseTW | 30 Aug 2012 09:08 | Taipei, Taiwan | | Report spam→
Humphrey, that was one of the most interesting replies I’ve read here for a long time! You mention the T3i – that’s not what you’re using, is it? Or maybe it is…

by DPC | 30 Aug 2012 13:08 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
Mark, lighten up, man. You were oversensitive to Tobie’s remark. It was clear to me that he was making a point with hyperbole. Here on LS people often give advice and guidance in short bits, and the language sometime doesn’t allow for maximum sensitivity. Moreover, photographers and editors in my experience can be pretty brutal with each other, even when they are friends, so to find a perceived edge to a remark here should not shock you.

BTW, Tobie – whom I do know – in fact is one of the the more thoughtful, sensitive people in photography, and knows a LOT about the world of videography.

by Neal Jackson | 30 Aug 2012 13:08 | Washington, DC, United States | | Report spam→
Sorry guys, I came first from SportsShooter, which has a knack for getting out of hand with condescending remarks. I appreciate the insight.

by Mark Kauzlarich | 30 Aug 2012 17:08 | Wisconsin, United States | | Report spam→
Its hard to fit all the words into the little LS writing box when all you have is a crayon——its great when you video guys show up with your lights but it doesn’t mean you can put your sticks where ever you want.

bro

by David Bro | 30 Aug 2012 18:08 | Orange County-Los Angeles, United States | | Report spam→
Well, Mark, all is forgiven (at least as far as I am concerned). And like Sportshooter things on Lightstalkers can get out of hand too. But the best approach, IMHO, is to give everybody the benefit of the doubt as to motives, and even if they do act like assholes, don’t lower yourself to their level.

by Neal Jackson | 30 Aug 2012 19:08 | Washington, DC, United States | | Report spam→
Yes, the T3i (along with multiple GoPro HD Hero 2) is what I use.

by Humphrey Cheung | 31 Aug 2012 00:08 | Los Angeles, United States | | Report spam→
“Don’t get enamored with promises of thousands of dollars per minute because getting those clips means hours or days of preparation/trust building and mindless boredom.”

True…I’ve been working on a very short video for the last 2 weeks, guess what, I haven’t recorded a single second yet. It’s all research and planning ’till now.

by Tom Van Cakenberghe | 31 Aug 2012 00:08 | Kathmandu, Nepal | | Report spam→
I must check out this Sportshooter place… sounds interesting.

by Humphrey Cheung | 31 Aug 2012 02:08 | Los Angeles, United States | | Report spam→
SportsShooter is a good resource for people who are interested in sports, newspaper journalism, and sometimes other things. A lot of creative folks and a lot of the industry’s best there.

It also, however, is where I learned how snarky and jaded people can get when in the industry for a long time. And how angry they’ll get if the words “US Presswire” are typed in their vicinity. Don’t get me wrong, I understand the issue with spec shooting in sports, but I air on the side of not crucifying those who do it. Its understandably more difficult when your livlihood is threatened by spec shooters.

by Mark Kauzlarich | 31 Aug 2012 02:08 | Wisconsin, United States | | Report spam→
Can I ask, why the T3i and GoPro’s, Mr. Cheung? I use the D7000 because 1) I’ve had it a while and used it a while 2) I bought it because it had a microphone input 3) its notoriously good for a crop body when it comes to low light.

I feel like the T3i and GoPro could be kind of limiting. I’d like to hear more though!

by Mark Kauzlarich | 31 Aug 2012 02:08 | Wisconsin, United States | | Report spam→
External mics get caught on stuff when you’re running… plus some (like the original Rode Mic) will bounce up and down adding a horrible squeegee squeegee sound to the video. Also if the micprophone jack is slightly unplugged, you forgot to turn it on or it doesn’t have enough batteries, your video will be completely silent.

T3i uses SD cards… GoPro uses SD cards, so I can swap back and forth. GoPros are easy, just turn them on and slap it on your helmet or on top of your regular camera with a friction arm. You can even give them to the “macho” rebels who want to go in the front and fight. Duct tape them to a rebel tank or technical. The uses are limitless.

by Humphrey Cheung | 31 Aug 2012 02:08 | Los Angeles, United States | | Report spam→

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Participants

Mark Kauzlarich, Mark Kauzlarich
Wisconsin , United States ( MSN )
David Bro, freelance editorial David Bro
freelance editorial
Orange County , United States ( LAX )
Tom Van Cakenberghe, Tom Van Cakenberghe
Kathmandu , Nepal
BignoseTW, Videographer/Photographer BignoseTW
Videographer/Photographer
(Tobie Openshaw)
Taipei , Taiwan
Humphrey Cheung, Freelance videographer Humphrey Cheung
Freelance videographer
(Body armor does a body good)
Los Angeles , United States
DPC, Photographer DPC
Photographer
Paris , France
Neal Jackson, Neal Jackson
(Flaneur, Savant and Scapegrace)
Washington, Dc , United States ( IAD )


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