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by Imants at 2009-10-26 12:41:29 UTC (ed. Oct 26 2009 ) beyond the boneyard 017º , Southern Sudan | Bookmark | | Report spam→

maybe she is selling prints… ;)

by [former member] | 26 Oct 2009 13:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Another good teaser: “Photojournalism: Crime against Humanity”

by [former member] | 26 Oct 2009 13:10 (ed. Oct 26 2009) | | Report spam→
Best quote about AL, from Vicky Goldberg: “Annie Leibowitz was the perfect embodiment of the 1980s. Then again, it was a pretty shoddy decade”

by Jonathan Lipkin | 26 Oct 2009 14:10 | Brooklyn, United States | | Report spam→
Jonathan, good one, but I have to ask, where was Vicky back then, she was writing the criticism for the New York Times, that was anything but critical….this isn’t attacking her, but just a question. Why was the media in the 80’s so unwilling to challenge any aspect of the the culture of photography…..even the photography reviews in the Village Voice were benign.

So to ask, is it really an accident than only since the advent of Typepad and Wordpress that we have had other voices?

by [former member] | 26 Oct 2009 16:10 (ed. Oct 26 2009) | | Report spam→
Andy, I’ve never been a fan of the arts coverage in the NYT or of Goldberg in particular. Gefter’s Photography after Frank is not a bad book. The articles are individually well-written, but it fails to gel into the cohesive argument or survey that is promised by the title. Seems that the overall photo coverage in the time tends more towards reviews, rather than surveys or analysis, in the way that their “News Analysis” articles have been. I don’t think this is a function of old media, more of the editorial direction that the Tims has gone in.

New media has always served to destabilize power structures, as I’ve written about at http://www.metaforas.org.

Goldberg simply likes to write the way she likes to write. It’s on the Times that they chose her as their main critic.

It’s telling that the Lucie for best photo mag went to an online publication, no?

by Jonathan Lipkin | 26 Oct 2009 16:10 | Brooklyn, United States | | Report spam→
http://www.pdnpulse.com/2009/10/annie-leibovitzs-obama-family-photo-released.html

by Imants | 26 Oct 2009 19:10 | beyond the boneyard 017º, Southern Sudan | | Report spam→
For sure, Jonathan. Its a great time to be in publishing. The emergence of the web is analogous to Guttenberg printing the first Bible….its a great time to innovate with minimal overhead. For photographers there are definitely complications, but I am reasonably hopeful that these issues will be sorted out as well.

As a teacher yourself I am sure that you have to create some sort of vision of a hopeful future too. We can’t promise that everyone who wants to will earn a living or even get their vision scene, but more and more photographers are doing surprisingly well, considering everything.

by [former member] | 26 Oct 2009 20:10 | | Report spam→
I appreciate your optimism Andy. Sure, it’s great time to publish. Monetization is another issue though. Not quite there yet, are we? I doubt either 100eyes, Burn, Verve, Gaia or any of the other ones are making great profit. We at Gaia are barely covering expenses as it is. But there are other benefits than the money, other values. As Mayes said something about, the days of selling just the pictures (printing licenses) are over. I think the sites I mentioned all have some future prospects. But for now, it’s still tough times to pay the bills and the contributors this way.

by Morten Svenningsen | 27 Oct 2009 04:10 | Kathmandu, Nepal | | Report spam→
As you correctly say Morten, we don’t always rate success by money, (and one never nows the opportunities presented.) That that essentially with no staff, and no financial support from anywhere, 100Eyes is seen by some bloggers as the best thing in documentary on the web….thats amazing.

Of course I too am barely making ends meet, have essentially no staff…but thankfully I get the odd assignment, the workshops are coming slowly, and at least I can keep a roof over my head, which is all I am looking for.

But until now micro-magazines like 100Eyes, Photo8, Gaia, Vewd and Burn were never possible—which I guess is my point.

by [former member] | 27 Oct 2009 21:10 (ed. Oct 27 2009) | | Report spam→

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Imants, gecko hunter Imants
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" The Boneyard" , Australia
Jonathan Lipkin, Professor, Photographer Jonathan Lipkin
Professor, Photographer
Brooklyn , United States
Morten Svenningsen, Photojournalist, fotograf Morten Svenningsen
Photojournalist, fotograf
Rønne , Denmark


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