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Lightroom 1.0 to be Released Feb 19...Beta Users to Have to Pay Up

The information on the release:

http://www.popphoto.com/photographynewswire/3714/hands-on-adobe-photoshop-lightroom-10.html

My guess is that a few keystrokes can bring you a discount off the quoted $199.

by [a former member] at 2007-02-02 02:33:13 UTC (ed. Mar 12 2008 ) Washington, DC , United States | Bookmark | | Report spam→

I love LR Beta 4. Sadly, I do not have the budget to spend an extra 200 bucks with such a dire need for a new Speedlight. Wonder if they can give a Coast Guard discount on top of the 199 reduced price.

by Aaron J. Heiner | 02 Feb 2007 02:02 | Washington DC, United States | | Report spam→
I sounds like its worth the $200 to me Neal…..a real time saver if it works as described in that article. The idea of non-linear editing has appealed after I edited my video “Aftermath” that appeared on PBS a few years ago. I used Final Cut Pro, which is also a non-linear editing program, meaning that your orignals are untouched, and whatever teaks you make to a file can be replayed like a macro and applied to the orignal file at any time. In video its called rendering.

I have been scanning a lot of tri-x negatives on the Nikon Coolscan 4000 and I end up with a RAW file from the scanner, a large TIFF, and then I need some smaller jpegs for my edit, maybe to throw up on my website, or upload into Digital Railroad. So this sounds like it might be a real time-saver as far as that goes.

by [former member] | 02 Feb 2007 03:02 | Chocolate City, United States | | Report spam→
I love it, and it’s worth the 200 bucks to me to buy it. Sadly, I need a new field flash more. I can share your pain with the TIFF’s. I Shoot in TIFF. (Long story) But LR has changed the way I do workflow. Now, only if it had a heal tool to correct for dust, it would completely replace CS.

by Aaron J. Heiner | 02 Feb 2007 03:02 | Washington DC, United States | | Report spam→
I really like using Lightroom despite it seriously slowing down my powerbook when working with the 5d files. The editing features are great, and the raw toning controls are excellent. I’m not one that keeps up with the latest and greatest software, but I’ll gladly slap down $200 on it.

by [former member] | 02 Feb 2007 04:02 | Sacramento, United States | | Report spam→
I have to say that the betahas been impressive. It makes everything smooth and easy if a deadline close. Fine tuning can be done later, but the results for editing and quick fixes have made me quite happy. 2 thumbs up if anyone is looking for a recommendation.

by Andrew Stanbridge | 02 Feb 2007 06:02 | boston, United States | | Report spam→
it’s a great piece of software. the only thing that annoyed me was that the caption box was only one line long, so when you’re writing a long caption you can’t see more than a few words of it so editing your captions becomes a bit of a pain in the ass. don’t know if this has been fixed in the 1.0 release… that and not really being able to create ‘project’ or ‘lightbox’ (ala fotostation pro and aperture respectively) meant that organising groups/topics/stories together in post production isn’t so easy in lightroom. but, andrew’s right in that the image control it allows is excellent.

to be honest i don’t know if i’d slap down any money for any of these digital asset management thingos just yet. the only big name one i haven’t tried is photo mechanic (which is prob next) but they all have at least one or two foibles about them (e.g. the caption thing or the lack of a curve tool in aperture… TIMMAHHHH!) that throw me off. the best i think so far in terms of functionality is probably fotostation pro, but the interface is not so crash hot (minor detail if the program works well) and it runs like, well, it doesn’t run it kind of hops, skips and jumps (and trips over) on a mac. a friend told me this is something to do with the different drive-format structure of macs versus pc’s and fotostation is written for pc so on mac it gets a bit funky a lot of the time.

so, the cycle continues… i guess if they get it right in the end they’ve got it wrong, because as soon as they get it RIGHT tightarse photogs like us will stop buying the next version when it comes out…

by Ed Giles | 02 Feb 2007 07:02 | Sydney, Australia | | Report spam→
it’s a great piece of software. the only thing that annoyed me was that the caption box was only one line long, so when you’re writing a long caption you can’t see more than a few words of it so editing your captions becomes a bit of a pain in the ass. don’t know if this has been fixed in the 1.0 release… that and not really being able to create ‘project’ or ‘lightbox’ (ala fotostation pro and aperture respectively) meant that organising groups/topics/stories together in post production isn’t so easy in lightroom. but, andrew’s right in that the image control it allows is excellent.

to be honest i don’t know if i’d slap down any money for any of these digital asset management thingos just yet. the only big name one i haven’t tried is photo mechanic (which is prob next) but they all have at least one or two foibles about them (e.g. the caption thing or the lack of a curve tool in aperture… TIMMAHHHH!) that throw me off. the best i think so far in terms of functionality is probably fotostation pro, but the interface is not so crash hot (minor detail if the program works well) and it runs like, well, it doesn’t run it kind of hops, skips and jumps (and trips over) on a mac. a friend told me this is something to do with the different drive-format structure of macs versus pc’s and fotostation is written for pc so on mac it gets a bit funky a lot of the time.

so, the cycle continues… i guess if they get it right in the end they’ve got it wrong, because as soon as they get it RIGHT tightarse photogs like us will stop buying the next version when it comes out…

by Ed Giles | 02 Feb 2007 07:02 | Sydney, Australia | | Report spam→
Ed- My comment box is 3 lines and keeps going…. I agree that the text window should grow while typing, but maybe they have sorted that out or someone needs to suggest it to them?
As for putting together a post production lightbox, you can create a new shoot and just drag pics from any other shoot into it to create a new project. Is this what you were talking about or am I misunderstanding? As for fotostation I couln’t agree more with your desription of hopscotch like antics. I gotta say that the smoothness of lightbox has impresssed me more than any other.
As for our tight arses there are too many things in this industry that prove how right you are about how these companies tickle us just enough…………..

by Andrew Stanbridge | 02 Feb 2007 07:02 | boston, United States | | Report spam→
If any of you have a student or faculty id, or can affiliate yourself with an educational instituion in some way, I’ve heard there is an educational price of $99. I haven’t been able to pre-order with this discount, would would guess it applies to the product when it ships.

by Jonathan Lipkin | 02 Feb 2007 13:02 | Brooklyn, United States | | Report spam→
Is there a demo out there?

by [former member] | 02 Feb 2007 14:02 | Chocolate City, United States | | Report spam→
“Now, only if it had a heal tool to correct for dust, it would completely replace CS.”

According to the ‘View the Feature Tour’ (see link below) there is a dust tool!

http://www.adobe.com/uk/products/photoshoplightroom/

You will find it mentioned in the Develop section of the video.

by Nicola J Cutts | 02 Feb 2007 14:02 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Hmm, beta 4 did not have a dust tool. The reviews I’ve read so far complained about the lack of it in all the reviews of LR 1.0 I’ve read.

by Aaron J. Heiner | 02 Feb 2007 14:02 | Washington DC, United States | | Report spam→
There’s a beta here:

http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom/

I’m not sure which features will be added to the final version. There’s some documentation online, if you search around for it.

What I’d really like to see is burning and dodging. Does anyone know if you can have different versions of a developed image?

by Jonathan Lipkin | 02 Feb 2007 14:02 (ed. Feb 2 2007) | Brooklyn, United States | | Report spam→
Just to be clear, does it actually dust the orignals, or just the export, or what? And what kind of files is all this information about your alterations to the slides in? How does one back that up? What if you want to move the images to another drive etc, what happenes to all that information, or your drives dies and you have to transfer data?

As far as the sharpening goes, small jpegs need different settings than large tiffs, how is this handled?

In other words, what does the back end of all of this look like?

by [former member] | 02 Feb 2007 14:02 | Chocolate City, United States | | Report spam→
“Hmm, beta 4 did not have a dust tool. The reviews I’ve read so far complained about the lack of it in all the reviews of LR 1.0 I’ve read.”

Watch the video, it clearly shows a dust tool being used!

by Nicola J Cutts | 02 Feb 2007 14:02 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
I’ve been using Beta 4 for six months now, and it clearly has no dust tool, and I’ve watched the video, but that option is not available on my build.

by Aaron J. Heiner | 02 Feb 2007 15:02 | Washington DC, United States | | Report spam→
Been working Beta 4 for a while now. Initially, I loved it. At the time, though, it was a try-out library, maxing out at around 1,500 images.
As I imported more images into the library, the program slowed down more and more, to the point that when it got to 5,000 files, it basically was impossible to work with. I reinstalled, and same thing happened, and even started getting error codes.
I’m working 5D files on a CORE 2 DUO machine, 2 ghz, with 2 gb ram and dedicated graphics. I’m frankly a bit at a loss, and hope that version 1.0, which I’ll try out, will not have these freezes…
-Rob

by Robert Go | 02 Feb 2007 15:02 | Colombo, Sri Lanka | | Report spam→
Andy,
I’m sure there’s a few ways to do it, but all the changes you make to a file are done to a ‘copy’ of that file when you export it, that way your originals are kept as ‘originals’. And yeah, it definitely runs a bit heavy Rob, I’m not surprised its been crashing with so many 5D files, I also hope thats fixed in 1.0

by Filipe Wiens | 02 Feb 2007 16:02 | Winnipeg, Canada | | Report spam→
“…The reviews I’ve read so far complained about the lack of it in all the reviews of LR 1.0 I’ve read.”…“I’ve been using Beta 4 for six months now, and it clearly has no dust tool, and I’ve watched the video, but that option is not available on my build.”

But aren’t we talking about Lightroom 1.0 rather than the Beta version?! I thought we were!

As I understand it, the Beta version will timeout once the full version is available, so a discussion on the capabilities of the full version is more useful.

If the reviews are complaining about the lack of a dust tool then it is clearly because they haven’t spotted it (excuse the pun)!

by Nicola J Cutts | 02 Feb 2007 16:02 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Andy: Here’s my workflow for the Beta 4… Import from cards into Lightroom. Edit using star system, and then quick collection function. Tone photos in Develop mode. Then back into Library mode for batch captioning. Export jpegs for sending to client/agency. Then back up shoot onto an external HD using “Export Photos as Photo Binder” function. This will save all the images plus all the Lightroom corrections. You can then re-import the “binder” later with your adjustments intact. I then “Remove and trash from Library” the shoot from my powerbook HD to prevent the massive slowdown that Robert describes. Other trick with Beta4 for preventing slowdown: when importing from your card, do not have that shoot be visible in the “Library” window, go to an empty folder instead. I really hope they’ve fixed that in the 1.0.

I’m sure other folks have more efficient workflows, but that works for me and my tools.

Aaron: Beta4 definitely does not have a dust tool. However, Lightroom 1.0 has features not in any of the Betas. On the Adobe LR 1.0 features page, it clearly says, “Erase dust spots from an image with a single click.” Hopefully, 1.0 runs faster too.

by [former member] | 02 Feb 2007 16:02 | Sacramento, United States | | Report spam→
I follow that Max. “Photo Binder” sounds like a nice idea, we used to use folders for the sheets of slides…..but tell me Max, is Adobe RAW converter part of the workflow? It would be appealing if I could store my caption data with the RAW and then just work off of all of the RAWS in exporting whatever revisions I need. It would be an improvement over that aspect of my system, especially on deadline stuff where the pressure builds. :)

When it comes to doing edit, I really like iviews ability to create different catalogs that I can use as story ideas, as some of what I am doing here long term can fall into one or two projects or both. Any idea if Lightroom might be able to do that?

by [former member] | 02 Feb 2007 17:02 | Chocolate City, United States | | Report spam→
Hmmm, not sure if I really understand your question, partly cause I really don’t have much experience with Adobe Camera RAW. Lightroom is what really turned me onto shooting RAW, the Adobe Camera RAW didn’t really excite me when I tried it.

The whole idea of Lightroom, is not that it offers any sort of real breakthrough new feature, but that it allows you to do everything with your photos that used to involve 2 or even 3 applications.

For example, my workflow previously (shooting jpegs): Import and then edit with PhotoMechanic. Open selected images in photoshop. Tone images in Photoshop. Save images. Caption images in Photo Mechanic. Save images. If I was shooting RAW then I’d have to add in the extra step of Camera RAW.

With Lightroom, I do everything in just the one application. As far as captions, they seem to stick with the pictures, and keywords certainly do.

Honestly, you should really just try it (the Beta4, that is):
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lightroom/

by [former member] | 02 Feb 2007 18:02 | Sacramento, United States | | Report spam→
In other words if I have a card of RAWS, will Lightroom use that RAW as my orignal image, and store all the metadata with that image, then allow me to go back and export from that RAW whenever I need a jpeg or whatever.

That would be very useful.

If that is the case I will get the Beta and try.

by [former member] | 02 Feb 2007 19:02 | Chocolate City, United States | | Report spam→
I like lightroom, the folders just drive me crazy, and I was having problems with photos getting moved into obscure places on my harddrives.

by Dominic Bracco II | 02 Feb 2007 19:02 | DFW, Texas, United States | | Report spam→
Andy: Yes, that’s how it works for me. In Beta4, you can specify keywords on import, and then batch caption once they’re imported. It took me awhile to figure out the batch captioning, but it is so simple that now I feel like a moron not having figured it out sooner. I guess it would have helped to read the instructions…

Dom: Which version are you using? I know the earlier versions did that, but the Beta4 not so much, especially if you tell it to use the embedded or sidecar previews. I believe you can specify precisely where you want the files to go…but don’t quote me on that.

At any rate, these are just my experiences with Lightroom up through Beta4, I have not used version 1.0 yet.

by [former member] | 02 Feb 2007 19:02 | Sacramento, United States | | Report spam→
In other words if I have a card of RAWS, will Lightroom use that RAW as my orignal image, and store all the metadata with that image, then allow me to go back and export from that RAW whenever I need a jpeg or whatever.

Andy, yes.

The best way to figure out the software is to download it and try it – it’s very simple. It doesn’t have a separate RAW converter because the software is a RAW converter, besides other things. It does a very mild default RAW conversion to each image that you import, but you can change the defaults, I think. You basically import any files you need to the software, you can either Move the originals to the Lightroom Library, or Copy them (recommended – if you’re not importing hundreds or thousands at once) to the Library, or simply Reference your files wherever they are. An XMP file (called a Sidecar file) is created for each image when you import, and that stores the settings – Metadata, edits etc. The actual file is untouched. The finished file is only that which you export.

Remember, if you choose to Reference a file, you can only edit the image if it is on a drive that is accessible i.e. if your original RAW file is on an external hard drive, you can only work on it when the hard drive is switched on, or you’ll just get a placeholder. You don’t lose any previous settings however – simply turn on the drive again and establish a link to the ‘missing’ file by clicking on a question mark that shows up in the corner.

The software is definitely worth it for me.

by [] | 02 Feb 2007 19:02 (ed. Feb 2 2007) | Toronto, Canada | | Report spam→
Got the idea, thanks. It makes a lot of sense.

by [former member] | 02 Feb 2007 21:02 | Chocolate City, United States | | Report spam→
I used several beta releases of Lightroom, although the program dramatically improved throughout development, I have two major gripes. Firstly – it is too slow! i have a powerbook g4, it was top of the line when i bought it, but now its a few years old and just barely handles the workload. the hours i’ve spent with my computer jammed into some dodgy power socket waiting for 8gig cards full of .nef/.dng/.. to download and preview. I really hoped lightroom would provide an improvement over programs such as bridge. however while i found the raw processing tools are excellent (and can provide a big time saving), importing the files and getting them ready for viewing just takes too long. 1x 8Gb card was taking 40 mins to download and preview. That’s a joke!

the second problem concerns file management. they say you can `keep your images wherever you like’, which may be true, but in doing so you inevitably end up clogging up your harddrive with unwanted database entries, preview files, sidecar files… etc. look at it this way – i ad a file to my lightroom library.. if i open it in photoshop and save a .jpg, lightroom has no idea that file exists unless i also add that file to my library manually (so i can’t see it in my library even though it exists on my harddrive). perhaps i decide then to look at my library in bridge, if i delete the original raw file, lightroom has no idea thta it has gone, and will (so far as i know) retain the redundant database entry, and preview, and whatever other junk it carries. moving files was a pest too.. in order to restructure part my folder hierarchy without confusing lightroom i would have to remove everything from the library, move it around, then add everything again and wait for all the preview to generate. using auto filing might work better, but then you still have to add all the .jpg and .tiff and whatever other versions manually before you can see them. basically you need a separate file browser and a bit of prior understanding as to what each program is doing…

other issues.. – seeing as we now have `non-linear editing’ (thanks for educating me on the terminology) why can’t we have multiple settings for the same raw file.. what if i want a black and white and a colour version?

the lack of the dust tool in the beta programs is ridiculous.. come on adobe.. that’s like serving soup without a spoon.

echo comment regarding lack of curves in aperture.. the reliant robin died out sometime last century.

i imagine most people have no trouble generating 16Gb or raw files from a days shooting. if this software only makes it harder to filter out the junk, then i think it’s missing the point. the camera→drive→server/DVD/Trash pathway has to be easy.

i would love to know if some of these problems have been fixed in the full release? and anybody running a MacBook Pro out there, is this software workable with the extra beef? i have heard that aperture is faster and avoids the file management problems by using file faults.. any comments on that? or iview media pro.

now i’m late.. i love raw using files but god they waste some time…

by Amos Aikman | 03 Feb 2007 06:02 (ed. Feb 3 2007) | Canberra, Australia | | Report spam→
The killer for me was that I keep all my master files as PSDs and Adobe’s Lightroom wouldn’t even rasterize their own file formats unless you saved it with a composite which roughly doubles the file size. Not sure if they changed that in later beta releases.

BTW, Lightroom is not meant to replace Photoshop, at least not yet. It’s an alternative to Bridge.

If you want non-destructive editing (non-linear is a video term that technically means something else although by nature it can provide non-destructive editing), it’s been available for a long time. That’s what adjustment layers are for in PS (for more flexible with masks but not an option for some filters) and what the the settings stored in the xmp sidecar files hold when you use Bridge. To those asking for the dodge and burn tools, I hope you’re not using them in PS if you’re a fan of non-destructive editing.

by Tommy Huynh | 03 Feb 2007 07:02 (ed. Feb 3 2007) | San Antonio, United States | | Report spam→
amos, i’m on a macbook pro 2.0ghz with 1.5gb of ram and both lightroom and aperture jam up when i’m trying to get them to really crank… for example – when i go and shoot an event and need to transmit the pictures asap – something a lot of people here would need to do.

i think these kinds of software DO make it easier to filter out the junk from a shoot and get an edit down fast, however like i said above each of the packages i’ve tried has had a significant enough quibble in the way it runs or the set of tools provided that i won’t be throwing hard earned cash to any of these companies just yet for their products. i suggest anyone who is in the market for this Digital Asset Managment software spend a good, long session using each piece of software available before spending $$$. by long session i mean long enough to get over the ‘wow’ factor of how the packages look and feel (something most of them have in abundance) and get down to the nitty gritty of how they all work for your workflow. do you use the curve tool a lot? do you write long captions and need to do it in a hurry? do you like to be able to switch between photoshop and your DAM package often (i.e. is a processor-hungry package like aperture or lightroom going to make your whole workflow grind to a halt when used in combo with photoshop?) all these are important issues, and considering how much money (200 bucks is more than two weeks rent for me) they various vendors are asking for these products, should be seriously considered.

having ranted, i am looking forward to trying lightroom 1.0 to see if the problems i have with the beta have been repaired…

by Ed Giles | 03 Feb 2007 07:02 (ed. Feb 3 2007) | Sydney, Australia | | Report spam→
BTW, if you belong to NPPA, it looks like you can buy Lightroom under its benefit program from PC Mall for $178 plus shipping and tax where applicable.

by [former member] | 03 Feb 2007 16:02 | Washington, DC, United States | | Report spam→
Amos, I think that is the problem with a closed system, if you start moving things around out of the back end, it can create a lot of problems, it certainly is with Final Cut Pro, although the Lighroom should have an option to remove information for orphan files, etc.

Generally speaking, and I think Tommy would agree with this, the more a program does for you, the less flexible it is. What I am seeing from Lightroom is that it would benefit assignment photographers who need to create different size files for different purposes and do it in a hurry— that makes sense to me.

by [former member] | 03 Feb 2007 17:02 | Chocolate City, United States | | Report spam→
What can you do other than say no, they got you by the balls

by Imants | 03 Feb 2007 23:02 | ok I give up... who am I, Australia | | Report spam→
thanks to people who replied to my post. i recently heard that the price of aperture has dropped a notch in response to adobe’s release. at the very least a bit of competition is likely good for the end user.

by Amos Aikman | 05 Feb 2007 22:02 | | Report spam→
For those that were interested in the “dust” tool. It appears they did add one for the final release of lightroom:

What to expect with Lightroom 1.0

Scroll down to “Spot Removal”, looks pretty nice.

by Corey Sosebee | 08 Feb 2007 07:02 | southwestern, China | | Report spam→
“Spot Removal”!!!!!… why………. don’t get dust on your goddamn sensor!!!!

by Imants | 08 Feb 2007 07:02 (ed. Feb 8 2007) | ok I give up... who am I, Australia | | Report spam→
Better still, stick to film.

Hows the kitchen going Imants?

by Tony Reddrop | 08 Feb 2007 22:02 | Palmerston North, New Zealand | | Report spam→
Right…
I’m in Australia now, but Sri-Lanka-based usually. I’ve been in touch with Adobe customer service because I’m trying to pre-purchase lightroom through the web, but adobe.com has been refusing the request. I’ve been told by these folks that Lightroom 1.0 won’t be available for download outside of the US, even if I pre-purchase using my permanent US address. They also couldn’t tell me anything about when it might become available in Australia, say. So there goes…

by Robert Go | 08 Feb 2007 22:02 | Melbourne, Australia | | Report spam→
I’m curious as to how you think the Asset Management aspect of Lightroom will stack up against iView? I’m a latecomer to iView, but find it’s changed the speed of my workflow dramatically. I found the Lightroom Beta to be slow and somewhat confusing – too much in one tight place. Maybe the Release version will work smoother. I did some promo still work for Lightroom (check out the photographer profile flash movies) but never gelled with the program. All the photographers we shot working used iView and swore by it – I think it was a bit frustrating for the Adobe creative team! So any iView users out there – will you be switching? I work mostly with scans btw but am succumbing to more and more digital capture.

Charles

http://www.charlespeterson.net

by [former member] | 08 Feb 2007 22:02 | Seattle, United States | | Report spam→
Andy Levin wrote:

“Is there a demo out there?”

I heard there will be a free 30-day trial version available for download on the site, as well as a $100 discount off the regular price:

http://www.getlightroom.com

by digital_light | 09 Feb 2007 04:02 (ed. Feb 9 2007) | New York, United States | | Report spam→
This discount dodge works for everything Apple. Register for a class at you local Community College. I can register for a $35 class on-line at my local CC. Doing that qualifies you for Apple’s education discounts. Things like Final Cut Pro for $699 instead of $1299…

by James Colburn | 09 Feb 2007 16:02 | Omaha, Nebraska, United States | | Report spam→
That’s not a bad idea.

by Aaron J. Heiner | 10 Feb 2007 01:02 | Washington DC, United States | | Report spam→
I have been using Lightroom now for just about 6 months. It is the closest I can get to what I need for work flow while on the road.

One thing though that Lightroom is not it is not a DAM software and should not be considered as such. Fore those things you are better of with Portfolio (extensis.com) and iView MediaPro (http://www.iview-multimedia.com/) or other simmilar.

What it is good for is raw converting. That is its main aim. If you need to sort your images and throw out the bad ones. This is it. Then work on them and convert them before you do your final work and store them. Keywording and description and wvery thing can be done here.

The only thing being raly negative is how slow it is and this file rendering realy slows it down. Still I say it is the lightest and best usable software out there at the moment.

If it was quick as Canons DPP and good in controls as DPP and Kodaks Photodesk put in one it would be absolutly purrrrrrfect, but whatthen again what is.

With this in my arsenal the workflow is like this now

Shoot
1. Upload images to computer(dont like to use any software for that)
2. Import images to Lightroom (have put different metadata for different places and have also made my own basic tone curves)
3. Sort out and throw away those ugly ones (most of the stuff :Þ )
4. Doe the color correction.
5. Put in the keywords and description
6. Export the tiffs

7. Import the tiffs to Portfolio

8. Do the final working on the images in Photoshop

Do the final meta data through Portfolio and that is my main catalog. Through Portfolio I keep track of the hard drives and folders and all the stuff I need to find the images again. Here again the beginning and preparation is vital to success in stead of a headache.

Copy the raw to a hard drive
Copy the raw to CD/DVD and send back home.

The only thing here is that the metadata is not following the raw file but I could have Lightroom write the sidecar. But then again In my opinion sidecars are made for motorcycles not images. Still I now have the metadata in portfolio and the tiff and the jpg (small files going to stock agencies as pre select or on the net) so it is in enough places to be retrieved

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Aaron J. Heiner, Photojournalist Aaron J. Heiner
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Andrew Stanbridge, Photographer Andrew Stanbridge
Photographer
Addis Ababa , Ethiopia
Ed Giles, Photojournalist Ed Giles
Photojournalist
Sydney , Australia
Jonathan Lipkin, Professor, Photographer Jonathan Lipkin
Professor, Photographer
Brooklyn , United States
Nicola J Cutts, Photography/Digital Nicola J Cutts
Photography/Digital
Brighton , United Kingdom
Robert Go, Photographer | Writer Robert Go
Photographer | Writer
Melbourne , Australia
Filipe Wiens, Photographer Filipe Wiens
Photographer
Vancouver , Canada ( YVR )
Dominic Bracco II, gringo Dominic Bracco II
gringo
Mexico City , Mexico
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Amos Aikman, Amos Aikman
Sydney , Australia
Tommy Huynh, Travel & Corporate Photog Tommy Huynh
Travel & Corporate Photog
Houston , United States
Imants, gecko hunter Imants
gecko hunter
" The Boneyard" , Australia
Corey Sosebee, architect, photographer Corey Sosebee
architect, photographer
Guiyang , China ( KWE )
Tony Reddrop, Photographer Tony Reddrop
Photographer
New Zealand , New Zealand
digital_light, digital_light
New York , United States
James Colburn, Photographer/Photo Editor James Colburn
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