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by [an unverified member] at 2005-10-07 05:53:06 UTC (ed. Mar 12 2008 ) Kuwait , Kuwait | Bookmark | | Report spam→

I’m lusting after one. Can’t see myself affording it though. It looks beautiful. It just makes me sad that Nikon are so slow at the moment.
As soon as someone gets their mitts on one please let us know and perhaps talk about it some.

by Paul Treacy | 07 Oct 2005 08:10 | New York City, United States | | Report spam→
Got my hands on one briefly the other day at the local photo store. Love the larger screen on the back for viewing and analyzing photos. Felt a bit beefier than the 20D but not nearly as heavy as my 1D Mark II.   Loved the full-frame, wider view with my 16-35 on it.  I’ll be heading back for another look today.

by Alden Pellett | 07 Oct 2005 08:10 | Vermont, United States | | Report spam→
Good camera, have been testing it now for several weeks. I recommend the 17-40 over the 16-35 to be paired with this camera.
even better than both of those is the new 24-105L, amazing coverage and sharp @ every focal length.

Bing on the M series digital!


by Nicholas | 07 Oct 2005 14:10 | Auckland, New Zealand | | Report spam→
nick, i am just curious. why do you personally recommend the 17-40 over the 16-35?


by [former member] | 07 Oct 2005 22:10 | New York City, United States | | Report spam→
Just ordered one, will take some time till I get it. In Germany 2480Euro without Tax (16% VAT). Used it a little bit in Perpignan. For me it is exactly what I waited for digitaly wise. Fullchip, light and relatively small (about the same as D20), big screen. I have no change switching between film and digi in focal length – my 16-35mm was pretty expensive and very unsharp, so I can switch back to my old 20-35 which is much sharper and also smaller, lighter and more solid.

by [former member] | 07 Oct 2005 23:10 | Berlin / Hamburg, Germany | | Report spam→
Its a great camera. I might try the monochrome mode today…if ya shoot RAW, you can get both a 16 bit colour and B/W image…nice. If anyone is in the UK, the British Press Photographers Association has a deal on the 5D…you have to be a BPPA member though.

by [former member] | 08 Oct 2005 03:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Dear Kai,
you mentioned this really low price for this little baby. I would be glad, if you could share that reseller.
Thanky you in advance!

by Eberhard Gronau | 08 Oct 2005 04:10 | Munic, Germany | | Report spam→
Dear Eberhard,

Just around the corner from you in Würzburg. It´s Technikdirect 0931 / 97 08 456. To buy at that price you have to register as reseller or being selfemployed.

by [former member] | 08 Oct 2005 06:10 | Berlin / Hamburg, Germany | | Report spam→
Thank you Kai, very kind indeed. It seems I will change horses after 15 years with Nikon SLRs.

by Eberhard Gronau | 08 Oct 2005 07:10 | Munic, Germany | | Report spam→
Sion,

How well is the camera sealed and how loud is the mirror?
I found the 20D to be so much louder than the 10D or the 1DS.

by David Lang | 09 Oct 2005 14:10 | Brooklyn, United States | | Report spam→
I havent dropped it down a toilet like my old EOS 5 yet (it kept working…long story, don’t ask), so I don’t know, but I assume its probably sealed pretty good, though if you plan on documenting the lives of Arctic trawlermen, I’d suggest taking a backup body : )

I’ve never had problems with any Canon EOS body with dust or water to be honest, as long you’re careful – I covered my D30 in clingfilm to keep out Afghan dust ’cos that stuff was like talcum powder…it worked fine…even the chip held up.

The shutter is about as loud as a 20D I suppose…

by [former member] | 09 Oct 2005 14:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Hi

FWIW, the shutter is quieter than a 20D, but it sounds longer and the shutter blackout seems to be longer as well.

by Kendrick Kwok | 09 Oct 2005 15:10 (ed. Oct 9 2005) | Singapore, Singapore | | Report spam→
What is the battery life like. I have heard that you only get about 200 shots per BP-11a. Any truth to that?

by Adam | 10 Oct 2005 06:10 | Ypsilanti, MI, United States | | Report spam→
Usually the BP11a’s last ages…my 5D seems to be pretty battery hungry but thats probably because my current batteries are pretty old. I’ll use a fresh one and see how much I get out of it.

by [former member] | 10 Oct 2005 06:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
The reason I recommend the 17-40 over the 16-35.

a. cheaper
b. sharper
c who needs 2.8 when u can use the 5d @ 1600 iso with no grain.




by Nicholas | 10 Oct 2005 12:10 | Auckland, New Zealand | | Report spam→
Checked out the 5D again. I guess I found the frame-per-second speed a bit slow, even at 1/500th. My 20D is still fast enough that I might expect to get a second frame during action but with the 5D probably not.   Since they both would be doing backup duty to the 1D Mark II most of the time, I’m holding off for now. 


by Alden Pellett | 10 Oct 2005 13:10 | Vermont, United States | | Report spam→
I went from a Nikon D2H/D100 setup to the Canon 5D and really love the images coming out of it. I’m still in the process of acquiring lenses for it and have been shooting with a 50mm 1.4 and a 24mm 2.8. My results with the 50 1.4 have been awesome, the color is very accurate and the images are extremely clean. Compared to my D2H, the body/AF/response isn’t as robust, but that’s probably not the intended goal for this model. My battery’s life has averaged about 500 images until the icon changes to the “half full” state, that’s with shooting RAW, doing some moderate chimping with zooming, and constant AF use. I’m really interested in getting the grip so I can use two batteries in together and so I don’t look like I’m trying to block the sun when I shoot vertically. The 25-105 f4L IS lens looks like a winner, although I haven’t shot with it myself, but its focal length on this body seems similar on the wide end as my old Nikon 17-55mm with the DX bodies. If you’re a portrait-photojournalist with emphasis on the portrait, you’ll like this camera. If you’re looking for rapid-fire shooting where you keep 1/20 shots, this isn’t your body.

by Terence Patrick | 11 Oct 2005 03:10 | Los Angeles, United States | | Report spam→
People keep mentioning that the shutter on this camera is "Slow/"  What would this potentially effect in the long-run?  Does it increase the risk of camera shake?  Any insight is appreciated.  Thanks!

by Amani Willett | 12 Oct 2005 11:10 | New York City, United States | | Report spam→
I don’t know if the shutter is slow, per se, but it does sound/feel dampened compared to my D2H or even a 20D I’ve shot with before. With my D2H, the mirror slap was pretty forceful so that some shots past 1/200th had a slightly “vibrated” look about them, even if they were sharp. It didn’t happen all the time, but I did notice it from time to time. I don’t think I would have that problem with the 5D as the mirror doesn’t seem to slam back down even at the higher shutter speeds.

by Terence Patrick | 12 Oct 2005 11:10 | Los Angeles, United States | | Report spam→
 If you’re a portrait-photojournalist with emphasis on the portrait, you’ll like this camera. If you’re looking for rapid-fire shooting where you keep 1/20 shots, this isn’t your body.


I agree with Terence, especially having finally seen beautiful prints from the Raw files I shot with the 5D.

by Alden Pellett | 12 Oct 2005 12:10 | Vermont, United States | | Report spam→
Thanks for your quick replies.  Your insights have been very helpful.  I think I will get the camera.

by Amani Willett | 12 Oct 2005 12:10 | New York City, United States | | Report spam→
Ive noticed on a couple of pics a kind of "zig zag" chroma noise.Also, because of getting ones from the first batch i suggest trying as many as it take before settleing with one.I had to test 4 before I found one that didint produce blue flared-out pixels in places.

by [unverified member] | 17 Oct 2005 06:10 | Baghdad, Iraq | | Report spam→
I just got one and I’m having some pretty serious issues with horizontal banding at 1600 iso and, the weirdest thing is a small vertical black line that is at the bottom left side of the frame. I’m sending it back tomorrow for a replacement, but I’m wondering if anyone else has had issues like this.



by Michael Rubenstein | 23 Oct 2005 15:10 | Portland, United States | | Report spam→
The 1D had a simialr problem with banding and a line as I recall. After several firmware upgrades, applications of tone curves and such, I think it was eventually diagnosed as a hardware issue…


by [former member] | 23 Oct 2005 15:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Its always nice to be a guinea pig.


by Michael Rubenstein | 23 Oct 2005 15:10 | Portland, United States | | Report spam→
I’m still waiting for the Nikon announcement due in a couple of weeks, apparently.

by Paul Treacy | 23 Oct 2005 15:10 | New York City, United States | | Report spam→
I had a couple of frames that appeared to have the banding at 1600 as well, but I realized they were severely underexposed and Adobe Camera Raw was applying “auto” exposure correction. My shots that were properly exposed at 1600/3200iso are all very clean looking (so far).

by Terence Patrick | 23 Oct 2005 15:10 | Los Angeles, United States | | Report spam→
I don’t think that was the issue, check these out…




















The first is the weird black line I was talking about. The second is the banding issue.





by Michael Rubenstein | 23 Oct 2005 15:10 (ed. Oct 23 2005) | Portland, United States | | Report spam→
Can’t say I’ve seen either of those two issues in my shots. Are you shooting RAW or JPG? If you’re shooting JPG, maybe the compression is on too high?

by Terence Patrick | 23 Oct 2005 15:10 | Los Angeles, United States | | Report spam→
raw. and Large JPG. The first issue is on every image no matter what format, however, the black line isn’t as visable at low ISO. Its really weird. I’m sending the camera back tomorrow.


by Michael Rubenstein | 23 Oct 2005 15:10 | Portland, United States | | Report spam→
i’ve got some pretty serious viewfinder pincussion distortion on mine. anyone noticed something similar, where a horizontal/vertical line appears bent (but ends up fine in the final image) ?
as a sidenote, the low-light abilities are truly extraordinary – i tried underexposing two stops from 3200, and zones that were another stop under were still useable after a bit of noise-reduction. As one would expect, pretty noisy, and a limited amount of detail – but useable, and probably less artefact-y than TMZ at those values…

by [former member] | 23 Oct 2005 22:10 | Lausanne, Switzerland | | Report spam→
The banding is very similar to the banding that cropped up on the 1D. As far as I remember the line was a horizontal line across the frame, so I have no idea what the line in your viewfinder is, though obviously its an issue, and we’ll have to see if anyone else reports similar lines. Send that badboy back!

by [former member] | 24 Oct 2005 01:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
I have a Powershot G5 which also has banding issues. The effect is the same as the shots by Michael Rubenstein, except that it appears predominently in the top third of the frame and diminishes as you go down frame. Under extreme stress (low light, much darkness, color correction etc) the problem extends a bit further. The effect is mostly in the red channel, but also shows up in the blue (next most affected) and least affected is the green channel.
The effect is only really seen in RAW files or highest res JPG. And at low ISO not high as expected from other cameras with banding issues. There is too much noise on my highest setting ISO (400) and I rarely shoot on anything but 50. The noise actually overpowers the lines not enforces them, so little is seen at these ISO settings. I am trying unsuccesfully at the moment for CANON to look into the problem. They changed an optical unit (v.expensive!), but the problem remains.
If the effect was uniform, as it seems in most other accounts I would probably put it down to crap CCD technology (not yet fulfilling its promise). But the fact that the affected part of the image is restricted predominantly to one half of the frame leads me to think there is a problem with my CCD.

Any how the similarity of the problem is striking, and the fact that it can be found in several makes leads to the conclusion that it is (at the moment) inherent in the technology.

by randy vellacott | 28 Feb 2006 03:02 | Brisbane, Australia | | Report spam→

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Jehad Nga, Jehad Nga
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Paul  Treacy, Photographer Paul Treacy
Photographer
(Photohumourist)
London , United Kingdom ( LGW )
Alden Pellett, Photojournalist Alden Pellett
Photojournalist
Vermont , United States
Nicholas, Nicholas
[undisclosed location].
Eberhard Gronau, Photojournalist Eberhard Gronau
Photojournalist
Omaha Beach/Normandy , France ( LEH )
David Lang, Photographer David Lang
Photographer
(Photographer)
Brooklyn , United States
Kendrick Kwok, Photographer Kendrick Kwok
Photographer
Hong Kong , Hong Kong
Adam, Art Director Adam
Art Director
Royal Oak, Mi , United States
Terence Patrick, First Assistant Terence Patrick
First Assistant
Los Angeles , United States ( LAX )
Amani Willett, Photographer Amani Willett
Photographer
New York City , United States
Michael Rubenstein, Photojournalist Michael Rubenstein
Photojournalist
New York , United States ( JFK )
randy vellacott, randy vellacott
Brisbane , Australia


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