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Shame on Asian Geographic Magazine! Pay Contributors' Invoices.

Asian Geograph has a reputation for not
paying its contributors. Are there any
contributors out there who are not getting
paid? Months and months have passed and I
have not been paid for 3 articles that ran
in the magazine. I wonder if we can put
enough pressure on the magazine to make a
positive change.

They wrap themselves in green, supposedly
tackling social and environmental issues
and then do not pay for work done for them.

Post a greivance. Let them know that they cannot push around photographers and journalists:

Post on the wall of their Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/james.whitlow.delano/posts/112919135455202#!/pages/ASIAN-Geographic-Society/171073141396

Send them an e-mail from their website:
http://www.asiangeo.com/index.php?feedback

We do not work for free. Our labor must
be valued and compensated or we will be
wiped out.

Thank you.

by [a former member] at 2011-03-27 07:24:35 UTC | Bookmark | | Report spam→

James, sorry to hear the problems your having with them. When I have had work published by them I have always been payed eventually, usually 90 days after publication which is a bit crazy when they received the piece sometimes 90 days prior to being published.

They certainly don’t seem like they are cash strapped with 3 or 4 publications on the go but their payment policies are not contributor friendly.

by Nayan Sthankiya | 27 Mar 2011 16:03 | Saskatoon, Canada | | Report spam→
BTW, they are not related to the Geographic magazines published by the National Geographic Society, I am told.

by [former member] | 27 Mar 2011 18:03 | Washington, DC, United States | | Report spam→
James, I feel your pain.
I was paid today for a story they published exactly nine months ago. Like a pregnancy. Ridiculous. Not worth the time and energy I had to put chasing them (although today I am happy). The good news is it looks like they will eventually pay if you keep reminding them (I’ve been sending one or two emails per week for the last few months).

This issue has appeared here on LS before:
http://www.lightstalkers.org/posts/asian-geographic-is-not-paying

As someone suggests in that previous thread, they seem to be doing a good cop / bad cop strategy between editor and finance dept. to delay payment as much as possible or to avoid it altogether. Either that or they are totally inefficient. In any case it doesn’t reflect well on them and it is a total lack of respect for contributors.

I’ve put them in my “stay away” list but I wish I had seen a thread like this before. It would be good it you didn’t delete it after they pay, so that others will know what to expect.

Anyway, don’t give up and I guess they will eventually pay you too. Good luck.

Cheers,

Nacho

by Nacho Hernandez | 30 Mar 2011 15:03 | Manila, Philippines | | Report spam→
Dear James san,
I faced the same situation last year. 6 months, before they paid me.
I strongly feel that they should change their payment policy, because its blood-sucking!

by Rahman Roslan | 30 Mar 2011 15:03 | kuala lumpur, Malaysia | | Report spam→
I guess there are lots more who have been waiting and have no clue. The best thing are the silly reasons.
1. All are photographers are out in the field so unless all come back we cant start dispatching the payments.
2. This is how the industry works, So you have to wait.
3. It takes 60 to 90 days.???

This is the last email I got today

Hi

You mean the payment?

Yes. It should be paid already. I have received emails from my other
contributors that they received it already.

Warm regards,
Lunita

So does that mean we all are lying ???

by Robinn George | 30 Mar 2011 17:03 | Kerala, India | | Report spam→
I was paid a couple of weeks ago for photos that they ran in their Photo Annual in 2009. It took 15 months and numerous emails to get the $ out of them.

by Craig Ferguson | 01 Apr 2011 02:04 | Taipei, Taiwan | | Report spam→
No, Asian Geographic has not affiliation
with National Geographic or the Royal
Geographic Societies.

I failed to mention in the first mail that
2 out of the 3 articles published were done
so without my knowledge. I found out that they
had been published them over lunch with the publisher
when he shared copies of the magazine with me.
I found two of my stories in the magazine.

George, after the threat of legal action, Asian
Geographic Magazine finally paid me. The industry
standard, though rarely followed, is payment within
30 days of an invoice being submitted.

Conclusion: It is a pity that they conduct business
in such a way. I like the layout, the subject matter
and the reproduction quality. I will, however, never
work with them again. It could have been a good client.

Thanks for sharing stories and advice…

by [former member] | 04 Apr 2011 12:04 | Tokyo, Japan | | Report spam→
Hey James even i got my payment today. I agree it was a real pain to work with them. I think you threat helped. I will have to wait for one more payment. So i may come back here.

by Robinn George | 04 Apr 2011 12:04 | Kerala, India | | Report spam→
Hi George,

I am happy to help out.

by [former member] | 04 Apr 2011 13:04 | Tokyo, Japan | | Report spam→
I had a few similar experiences with Mankind and Nature in China, got paid eventually but it took them 9 months for each story.

Good luck !

by Johnny lam | 12 Apr 2011 16:04 | Kakinada, India | | Report spam→
Where is Asian Geographic based in Asia? Unfortunately many Asian based magazines as well as other photographic platforms still seem to fit the street hustler/con artist stereotype the region is known for – at least SE Asia. One might imagine that the supposedly more ‘advanced’ countries such as Japan and South Korea had evolved out of this mentality by now. Fifteen years ago I had similar experiences in Seoul with their supposedly franchized version of Geo. The attitude was similar to the way they treated English teachers at that time – get them to work with the promise of eventually being paid then shut up shop. Seems not much has changed. So much for the Asian Century.

by Nigel Amies | 13 Apr 2011 03:04 (ed. Apr 13 2011) | Vientiane, Laos | | Report spam→
Nigel, they’re in Singapore.

by Craig Ferguson | 13 Apr 2011 04:04 | Taipei, Taiwan | | Report spam→
You’d think Singapore would have a bit more of an image to live up to.

by Nigel Amies | 13 Apr 2011 05:04 | Vientiane, Laos | | Report spam→
There used to be a magazine called, Action Asia,
out of Hong Kong, that was the same way. I am not
going to generalize about the region but I had thought
that a Singapore based might be more scruplous. (I
thought the same way about Hong Kong too!)

They paid me. So, I am putting it behind me. As
mentioned, I would not recommend anyone work with
them.

by [former member] | 13 Apr 2011 11:04 | Tokyo, Japan | | Report spam→
Sounds like a bad joke.
I had this problem with them 5 years ago when I was living in KL.
They published my story and I saw the money more then 6 or 7 months later.

Shame on them!

Good luck guys!

by Eduardo Lima | 30 Jul 2012 05:07 | Toronto, Canada | | Report spam→
I waited for 3 months to get paid.

by Putu Sayoga | 31 May 2013 07:05 | Sleman, Yogyakarta, Indonesia | | Report spam→

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Participants

Nayan Sthankiya, Visual Journalist Nayan Sthankiya
Visual Journalist
Saskatoon , Canada
Nacho Hernandez, Photographer Nacho Hernandez
Photographer
(Philippines)
Manila , Philippines
Rahman Roslan, Photojournalist Rahman Roslan
Photojournalist
Labuan , Malaysia
Robinn George, Freelance Photographer Robinn George
Freelance Photographer
(Documentary Photographer)
Kerala , India
Craig Ferguson, Photographer Craig Ferguson
Photographer
(cfimages)
Taipei , Taiwan
Johnny lam, freelance photographer Johnny lam
freelance photographer
Kigali , Rwanda
Nigel Amies, Photographer/writer Nigel Amies
Photographer/writer
[undisclosed location].
Eduardo Lima, Photographer Eduardo Lima
Photographer
Toronto , Canada ( AAA )
Putu Sayoga , Freelance Photojournalist Putu Sayoga
Freelance Photojournalist
(Bali, Indonesia, photographer)
Denpasar , Indonesia


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