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What small camera to get?

Hi, I am looking to get a smaller camera style fuji, panasonic etc.
Any suggestions or tips from who might have used them in professional capacity. Also will picture libraries and agencies accept images from them….
Thanks Pierre

by Pierre Alozie at 2012-05-17 16:50:52 UTC | Bookmark | | Report spam→

the fuji x100 is pretty damed good. low light is awesome. my biggest problem is a bit of shutter lag, and the manual focus is pretty useless, but… the auto focus is descent. $1200 USD. makes nice contrasty files.

by Eros Hoagland | 17 May 2012 17:05 | Tijuana, Mexico | | Report spam→
I’ve had a couple G series Canons, and they work pretty well. Cheaper than the Fuji, but I understand the X100 is better in low light.

by John Louis Lassen Perry | 17 May 2012 18:05 | Liberty Corner, New Jersey, United States | | Report spam→
I’ve played with some of the Olympus EP-series cameras, and they rock. The AF on the EP3 is fast. MF system is a little sloppy. Low light is good to great. Plus, they adhere to the micro 4/3 standard, so interchangeable lenses from different manufacturers work across everyone that uses the system.

by Will Seberger | 17 May 2012 20:05 | Tucson, Arizona, United States | | Report spam→
Another vote for the Fujifilm X100 from me too – with the latest firmware update on 17th May (Ver 1.30) and an F/2.0 23mm (35mm equiv) lens, can’t go wrong. Manual focus is getting better since it launched – still not perfect but getting there. Yes, agencies are accepting my work from an X100, archive/stock are too.

by Matthew Richards | 18 May 2012 07:05 (ed. May 18 2012) | Bangkok, Thailand | | Report spam→
Thanks for the replies… Any news on the Panasonic GX 1? That is good to know about the libraries…

by Pierre Alozie | 18 May 2012 09:05 | london, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
I’m a big fan of the Panasonic GX1. I use it almost every day. Focus is very fast and accurate, image quality is excellent. It’s quite small and the lenses are excellent. I ended up with the 14mm f2.5, 20mm f1.7 and 45mm f1.8. The 20 and 45 are outstanding. The 14 is very nice and, for the price, a great deal. Depending on what you’re looking for, either the GX1 or Oly EP3 are very nice small cameras.

by Jack Kurtz | 18 May 2012 15:05 | Phoenix, Arizona, United States | | Report spam→
@Jack Kurtz – just sent you a DM! And an apology for losing your email. Meet up in Bangkok?

by Matthew Richards | 18 May 2012 23:05 | Bangkok, Thailand | | Report spam→
I’ve had really good luck with the Fugi X10. Amazing image quality, fast focus, nice viewfinder, reasonable price in small pocket sized package.

by Robb Goodell | 19 May 2012 01:05 | Bozeman, Montana, United States | | Report spam→
Agree Robb, I have that little X10 too – quite a surprise what you can achieve with it.

by Matthew Richards | 19 May 2012 02:05 | Bangkok, Thailand | | Report spam→
Ho! that’s a new one…the X10? Really? Cool…..Apart from the handling etc , are the newspapers, mags, etc using photos made with these cameras, or are these cameras used for “off the record” shots…

by Pierre Alozie | 19 May 2012 07:05 | london, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
here’s a good analysis on fuji x10 performance in the field by a good friend and great photographer Marc Hofer: http://thex10blog.blogspot.com/

by Paulo Nunes dos Santos | 19 May 2012 09:05 | Dublin, Ireland | | Report spam→
Paulo that’s an amazing link for Marc Hofer’s work – incredible stuff from the X10 too

by Matthew Richards | 19 May 2012 11:05 | Bangkok, Thailand | | Report spam→
Matt, I can’t access my PM’s. There’s a contact link on my homepage: jackkurtzphotography.com

by Jack Kurtz | 19 May 2012 15:05 | Phoenix, Arizona, United States | | Report spam→
Canon S95 or S100

by James Colburn | 19 May 2012 16:05 | Omaha, Nebraska, United States | | Report spam→
thanks for the link to the blog by Marc, very interesting to see the camera and its results in the field… He does good work too… It is definitely worth considering.

by Pierre Alozie | 19 May 2012 19:05 | london, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
This came out of my X10 yesterday


Not bad for a tiny sensor…

by Matthew Richards | 20 May 2012 12:05 | Bangkok, Thailand | | Report spam→
@matthew… Nice, am seriously thinking about this camera…

by Pierre Alozie | 20 May 2012 19:05 | london, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Yes Paulo, thanks for Marc Hofer’s link. Great work & info on how the X10 is working for him in the field.

by Robb Goodell | 21 May 2012 04:05 | Bozeman, Montana, United States | | Report spam→
a tossup between the fuji x10 and the panasonic GX1….

by Pierre Alozie | 21 May 2012 11:05 | london, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
I love my Canon G12 and the G1x is even better

by Cameron McIntyre | 23 May 2012 01:05 | Los Angeles, United States | | Report spam→
leica m9, discreet in every way.. (in my opinion) a little steep on the pocket though… but worth it!


by Musa | 24 May 2012 11:05 | Manchester, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
What about the Fuji X100’s autofocus speed? And isn’t it relatively bulky for a point-and-shoot? Does it fit into yr pocket?

by Balint Szlanko | 24 May 2012 17:05 (ed. May 24 2012) | Budapest, Hungary | | Report spam→
Pierre – I have had no problems with X100 images in large publications. Much work ran in past month, all from a pair of X100’s

by john d | 25 May 2012 14:05 | hetay, Turkey | | Report spam→
Thanks for the input….

by Pierre Alozie | 25 May 2012 19:05 | london, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
the fuji x100 fits fine in a side cargo pocket, or a small fanny pack. it not a point and shoot, but much better files.it works like a real camera, shutter sped dial and aperture ring, again, manual four useless at prsnt. the method I use for auto focus is to set camera to manual, then use the the back thumb button to auto focus, much like the way many of use auto focus the 5D. Like I said before, the low light dies rock. no problem at 2500 ISO. and for $1200, a lot easier on the bank account than the the fuji xPro 1. I had the canon s90 for a few days and didn’t dig the fact that it was very much a pocket camera with no optical viewfinder.

by Eros Hoagland | 25 May 2012 21:05 | Tijuana, Mexico | | Report spam→
I recently had the same question when I was looking for a small unobstrusive camera and have compared Sony’s NEX-5, the Canon G1X and the Nikon V1 (the Panasonic GX-1 wasn’t available at that time).

In the end I decided to ask Nikon for the V1 for a sepcial project and luckily got one. It took me a while to get familiar with the camera but now it is a camera I never want to miss. It is small and has some cool features I really like. For example the silent shutter mode is excellent for secretly taking photos. While the Nikon V1 isn’t performing as well as the Canon G1X in low light there are other advantages why I would prefer the Nikon over the Canon: Excellent built in electronic viewfinder with all the details and 100% control, fast and precise autofocus, good control for f-stop and shutter speed, great battery performance and a solid build camera body. It is a simple and small camera that works exactly how I want it to work.

by Paul K. | 26 May 2012 12:05 | Munich, Germany | | Report spam→
I think I’m sold on the X100…

by Balint Szlanko | 26 May 2012 17:05 | Budapest, Hungary | | Report spam→
@Balint – I never go anywhere without my X100, and with recent firmware updates it’s getting better and better. Not sure how it will work out, but a wide-angle converter is coming out next month too, which will give it 19mm (28mm equiv) lens attached directly onto the camera Fuji website link here: http://bit.ly/K11IaQ

by Matthew Richards | 27 May 2012 00:05 | Bangkok, Thailand | | Report spam→
@Matthew: Cheers. For me the most attractive thing is the fixed 23mm anyway.

by Balint Szlanko | 27 May 2012 04:05 | Budapest, Hungary | | Report spam→
Without a doubt the x100 is a good choice, and probably all the rest mentioned (I just eye that x10). Pierre, remains is how small you want it to be? On a very recent trip I got amazing shots out of an iPhone 4s. I am not an apple fan(atic)…I barf on the costs. But in bright sunlight the iPhone is crisp and silent. And nobody cares to be shot by it.

In search of a small camera i think everybody should just sit back and wait, one, two years. And then leica m9 thingies will be available. In the mean time buy whatever (its all short term investment anyway) and ditch it fast enough to get a good sec hand price. A good picture story is these days at laest worth half a p&s price. And then I say this in the darkest of moods.

by Tom Van Cakenberghe | 27 May 2012 13:05 | Kathmandu, Nepal | | Report spam→
Hi Tom, I have been doing the same with the samsung galaxy s2, but need more quality.. I have got some very good photographs using the phone cam, but whether they translate to larger prints is another story… Hence the search … Hope that the dark clouds have drifted away…

by Pierre Alozie | 29 May 2012 13:05 | london, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Well the dark clouds dont refer to me personally, just to the lower day rates. I guess the galaxy does a similar job as the iphone, just another brand printed on it, basically. For now these phones are a great solution as long as you carry around a dslr with a fast lens for the situations the phones cant capture.

by Tom Van Cakenberghe | 29 May 2012 16:05 | Kathmandu, Nepal | | Report spam→
I was asking myself the same question.
A friend of mine lent me a X100, and I’m pretty happy about it. I had issues about focusing (getting better, okay okay, but still it is indecent, especially in manual focus mode…) but the images look really great.

Personaly, I’ll go for it in the summer.

by Basile Simon | 29 May 2012 22:05 | Lyon, France | | Report spam→
That’s it!!! I have got the fujifilm X10… 3 months old 2nd hand, from London Camera Exchange on The Strand. I am seriously liking it… Lens is brilliant and surprisingly OK for my large hands… Its quick, but not too sure about the white balance in auto..
Anyway, I will be using it and finding out more of this little machine… Thanks for all the feedback


by Pierre Alozie | 30 May 2012 19:05 | london, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
The Canon G1 X should have been the winner here, but apparently not. See Richard Pogue’s review of it:


I still use the Canon G12 and find it at around $400 the best price/performance ratio out there. Until the manufacturers get through the shutter lag and focus issues there won’t be anything that meets the ideal…an autofocus that has the performance of the M9 but which sells for under $2,000.

by Neal Jackson | 31 May 2012 13:05 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
+1 for the Canon G series. I have been carrying a G10 for about three years as a backup or quick shot camera and it is incredibly durable. I would hope that the G1-x would be nice, but costlier.

by Christopher Scrivens | 31 May 2012 23:05 | New Jersey, United States | | Report spam→
@Christopher – you’ve been luckier than me then with a G10. First the ‘motherboard’ died (Canon Thailand’s term, not mine), and that was followed by a complete lens assembly change after the lens refused to collapse back into the body on switching off. I wanted to like the G series, but never got on well with looking through that somewhat limited viewfinder. Now have both the Fujifilm X100 and X10 as my small cameras.

by Matthew Richards | 31 May 2012 23:05 | Bangkok, Thailand | | Report spam→
It’s the form that I like about the Fuji…It is similar in spec to the Canon or Nikon of the G style, but they (Fuji), have been able to put the specs into an attractive shape…

by Pierre Alozie | 01 Jun 2012 16:06 | london, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
i just upgraded the latest firmware for the fuji x100. auto focus better,manual focus a little better – and surprisingly, and more importantly it seems the shutter lag has improved dramatically. I’m using it in manual focus mode while using the back thumb button for auto focus as described in my earlier post. the prox1 is really nice, held one the other day, but its not a small camera (size of a leica m) and its not cheap. so again, the x100 is great once you figure out how to set it up for your own rhythm.

by Eros Hoagland | 01 Jun 2012 19:06 | Tijuana, Mexico | | Report spam→
Hey Eros,

Have you done any video in Tijuana with the x100?

Anyway, it must be nice to use considering it’s pretty quiet

by Jared Angle | 06 Jun 2012 03:06 | Des Moines, IA, United States | | Report spam→
Will do, have some casual photos for the street parties here in London… Will put them up and post the link…

by Pierre Alozie | 10 Jun 2012 13:06 | london, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
naw, not really Jared. I’ve dicked around a little with the video on the x100, but for video Its the 5D II all the way

by Eros Hoagland | 10 Jun 2012 23:06 | Tijuana, Mexico | | Report spam→
Ok, here’s the census at LOOK3. I could not tell the exact models but these were the evident P&S cameras being used by pros as they went thru various activities.

David Alan Harvey – Lumix
Several people – Olympus lens-changing model
At least one pro (whose name I decline to reveal) using the Fuji (I think the X100, not the “Pro”)
A number of major mag editors using the Canon G series (mostly G12s). Of course they aren’t shooting pros but some once were.

Frankly, at LOOK3, for every P&S that was in the hands of someone significant in the industry, there were four iPhones being used by other players. This is true even though Stanley Greene in his interview trashed iPhones as photography tools. He also trashed digital technology generally, complaining that he once dropped an SD card and it was so small that it went through a grate in a bridge, into the water. Puhleeese!

by Neal Jackson | 11 Jun 2012 00:06 | Washington, DC, United States | | Report spam→
@tom here is a link to photos done in greece during the elections… Only with the X10 Fuji… Discreet and handy. Peace

by Pierre Alozie | 05 Jul 2012 21:07 | london, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
The Sony RX100 is a game changer. Comes out on July 18.

by Gabriel Romero | 06 Jul 2012 20:07 | Ventura, CA, United States | | Report spam→
The Sony NEX 7 is great, especially if you need to shoot stills and video. Up to 1600 ISO it competes very well with the Canon 5D MK III.

by DPC | 06 Jul 2012 21:07 | Paris, France | | Report spam→

For me it’d be the Sony NEX-7. No question. It has the 1.5x sensor at 24 megapixels. A colleague who owns NIkons and Leica says it’s the best camera he’s ever owned. Period. It’s an EVIL (electronic viewfinder interchangeable lenses) camera so it might not appeal to some. An adapter allows use of Leica M lenses btw. Only downside (come on, you knew there was one) is that it’s pricey at around US$1300 or so.

by John Robert Fulton Jr. | 09 Jul 2012 13:07 | Spring Lake, Michigan, United States | | Report spam→
For me the biggest NEX7 downside is that the autofocus is a bit slow (although I can live with that) and, above all, that the centre focusing zone is a bit too big to be accurate.
That said, it’s probably one of the best cameras I have ever owned and fun to use and truly polyvalent (photo/video) which can’t be said of, for example, the Panasonic GH2.
And it’s definitely the shape of things to come (with a built-in EVF that doesn’t make you regret it not being an optical viewfinder.

by DPC | 09 Jul 2012 14:07 (ed. Jul 9 2012) | Paris, France | | Report spam→

Polyvalent? Hmmm, some mighty fancy words being thrown around these parts. :-]

DPC – I admit to having not actually used the NEX-7 – thanks for the comments. There’s some word that the next Leica M – the M10 might have video, too. ‘Not sure I’m looking forward to that (or the cost). But it would be (I’m learning) polyvalent.

by John Robert Fulton Jr. | 10 Jul 2012 18:07 | Spring Lake, Michigan, United States | | Report spam→
Yep, that’s what comes of living in France for so long… Although I think polyvalent passes in english, maybe versatile would have been a better choice.

by DPC | 10 Jul 2012 20:07 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
The Lumix G3 is a bargain and nice upgrade from the GF1. I much prefer it over the GX1. Same sensor as GX1 but also a pretty good built-in EVF, articulating screen, good high ISO up to 800, and usable at 1600 depending on the subject matter. I like the ergonomics better than the Olympus OMD. With a 20mm and 14mm pancakes, its a real small package.

by Joel Sackett | 11 Jul 2012 17:07 | Puget Sound, Washington, United States | | Report spam→
DPC- is it true that the “M” in the M9 indicates it is a monovalent camera?

by Barry Milyovsky | 12 Jul 2012 19:07 (ed. Jul 12 2012) | Manhattan, United States | | Report spam→
I have shot with the xpro1 and x100 and after the recent firmware update they have gotten better but still not as great as they could be. I am thinking about maybe getting rid of my d7000 and d5100 for the fujis. The only thing I don’t like is not having weatherized cameras. The Olympus is nice for that fact and that fact only to me every thing else the Fuji is more appealing.

If you wait until the 18th of this month I believe (6 more days) the lumix g5 is going to be announced. I think that it will be quite a good piece of equipment.

by Austin Dudley | 12 Jul 2012 21:07 | washington, United States | | Report spam→
Barry, I thought it stood for “muthafukahsbad.”

by Neal Jackson | 13 Jul 2012 00:07 | Washington, DC, United States | | Report spam→
Marc Hofer’s work for AP in the Democratic Republic of Congo looks pretty good to me – exclusively shot using a Fuji X10 http://thex10blog.blogspot.com/2012/07/x10-news-shooter.html

by Matthew Richards | 15 Jul 2012 09:07 (ed. Jul 15 2012) | Bangkok, Thailand | | Report spam→
There was an interesting review of the Fuji XPro1 I read recently on – I think – theonlinephotographer.com The reviewer hated it for several reasons – one being that as a left eye user he couldn’t get a clear view through the viewfinder – but at least he was able to give it a try having borrowed it from a friend. Apparently not much chance of that these days if you just walk into a camera store. Last time I bought a new camera on spec was a Mamiya 711 by mail order and I never doubted it would be exactly what I wanted. With digital cameras there’re just so many techie gliches to look out for before handing over your cash.

by Nigel Amies | 15 Jul 2012 18:07 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Nigel, perhaps your comment is worthy of a seperate post: but is switching from left eye to right eye all that difficult for most people? Of course, if the left eyed reviewer of the Fuji XPro 1 has only one eye I can see his point (with either of my eyes.)

by Barry Milyovsky | 15 Jul 2012 19:07 | Manhattan, United States | | Report spam→
Nigel, Ctein, who did the comment about the Fuji X pro, prefers frame with the rear screen. So that give you an idea of what kind of use he do. Most professionals likes frame using a viewfinder. You have a lot of comments of professionals that liked Fuji for portrait, travel and documentary work. Personally, I hate frame using the rear screen, I like use a viewfinder and I love to use optical viewfinders. Some people not. Is a personal taste or way of work. What worried me more about the Fujis is the fact that for manual focus these cameras don’t have a peak indicator. But some people told that they found the hybrid viewfinder very good to focus in the zone for fast shoots. In spite all this opinions, the Fuji X pro 1 is not a compact, it’s size is similar of an m9 or m6 and the lenses are more light but more big than the ms or voigtlanders. I suppose the x100 and x10 are more on the ground of compacts.

by Hernan Zenteno | 15 Jul 2012 21:07 (ed. Jul 15 2012) | Buenos Aires, Argentina | | Report spam→
Interestingly, the X100 is now selling for £600 and something in London. Down from around £1000 when it first came out just a couple of years ago. So, is it about to be discontinued to boost sales of the X Pro 1? Personally, when I picked up either one of the demos I felt less than excited. Too many buttons, not much room for fingers and viewfinders on both looked dark – well it was in the shop. Anyway, reduced price or not I doubt I’ll be buying any time soon.

by Nigel Amies | 18 Jul 2012 07:07 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
Nigel the X100 was only 600 pounds when it originally came out here in Bangkok last April/May 2011. Guessing tax in the UK accounts for the higher original launch price? Viewfinder on my X100 is pretty bright. Unlikely it will be discontinued – seems to have cornered a niche market. Its not a DSLR but it’s still a very handy tool to have with me every day.

by Matthew Richards | 18 Jul 2012 08:07 | Bangkok, Thailand | | Report spam→
Two options (I have both and love them – one of them is always with me): Fujifilm X100 and Sony NEX-7. I like the Fuji a lot, but the Sony’s great video ability finds it in my jacket pocket more often.

by Joe Sindorf | 18 Jul 2012 22:07 | Sahel, Burkina Faso | | Report spam→
The Panasonic Lumix GX1 is a good little camera. I like the electronic viewfinder, although it isn’t really necessary; I just prefer putting the camera up to my eye. The 20mm lens is great. The down side? The viewfinder eats power like nobody’s business, so if you get the Gx and the viewfinder then get yourself several batteries as well. You’ll need them.

by Akaky | 22 Jul 2012 16:07 | New York , United States | | Report spam→
I’m facing the same questions as you do.
Here’s my selection, if it helps anyone :
Fuji X100
Fuji X10
Panasonic GX1
Sony NEX 5n

I kicked the Olympus OM-D out because of its price, although it was a fantastic camera.
The Sony looks to has great performances, to be precise and efficient, where the X100 appears to be a camera which has it’s own character.

I personaly think that I’m gonna jump for the X10 from Fuji, because of its price mainly. If not satisfied, I will get back to the X100.

by Basile Simon | 22 Jul 2012 17:07 | Lyon, France | | Report spam→
Just to add another bit to the list. I saw a picture recently of what I think might be the small camera I want on BJP via LS. Not sure if it’s for real. Maybe I’m dreaming. But seems Hipstamatic are planning something and it might be the answer. What I want is basically a digital Holga only smaller. Hipstamatic seems to have something that producess images very similar to a Holga but it’s an app on an damned IPhone. I catagorically do not want an IPhone, but I would be interested in a cheap little camera that only had the Hipstamatic app – and nothing else. Is anyone listening?

by Nigel Amies | 23 Jul 2012 17:07 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→
yes I am, but you could do these hipstamatic effects in photoshop…..

by Pierre Alozie | 23 Jul 2012 20:07 | london, United Kingdom | | Report spam→

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