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Pricing images for use in a independently funded, self distributed documentary film

I licensed some images to a film company a year or so ago just for film festival use. We worked out a reasonable deal and I was happy and we said when they got distribution we would talk about a new license. They are now asking for “All Media, Worldwide, In Perpetuity” I explained before that this was probably unnecessary, but they are trying to self distribute so they have no idea where it will go from here. Any ideas on where to start with pricing, never had this one before?

Oh, it is for 6 still images that are in a feature length doc.
Thanks
Jeremy

by Jeremy M. Lange at Tue Sep 29 20:52:32 UTC 2009 Durham, North Carolina, United States | Bookmark | | Report spam→

Bump, anybody have any experience pricing this sort of thing?
thanks

by Jeremy M. Lange | 01 Oct 2009 15:10 | Durham, North Carolina, United States | | Report spam→
Funny this should come up. I am having a similar issue that has raised today. TV production company wants to use one of my images in a reality TV/doumentary. There is a tangential link with cancer, and I have made it clear that I want the reproduction fees to be donated to a cancer charity as I am not desparate for the money. They have come back saying that they need ME to sign THEIR licence which is requiring “all media (including any not currently existing) worldwide in perpetuity”.

I have told them no deal. The great thing is that since I have already said I want the money to go to charity it is clear that my concern is not over how much money is involved, but rather over whose property this is, and my retaining control over hwo my work is used. I have RA contracts that I use regularly, but I am getting increasingly pissed off with clients from all arenas telling me that I have to sign THEIR licence arrangements. As far as I am concerned, it is MY work, they can sign MY bloody contracts.

I am always willing to negotiate elements of any contract to a mutually satisfactory condition, but the way this one is set up is tantamount to my ringing up Coldplay and saying “I am going to buy your CD, but I need you to sign my licence arrangement that allows me to play the music to as many people as I want, wherever and whenever I want, for a return, forever, and you have no say in it”. I suspect Chris Martin et al might tell me to get stuffed – and quite right too!

In the meantime, and assuming I get them to revist their ridiculous demands, does anyone have guideline suggestions for fee ranges? The program is to be aired multiple times on major UK channels, and is likley to be sold overseas. It is a popular program with a fairly high profile (in the UK).

by Michael Cockerham | 01 Oct 2009 19:10 | London, United Kingdom | | Report spam→

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Jeremy M. Lange, Photographer Jeremy M. Lange
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