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I have stumbled across the motherload of film, but it’s all expired. Really expired. Much of it is from the 1990’s, the earliest from 1994, the latest from 2003. It has NOT been refridgerated, but it has been in a dark dry cabinet in a air-conditioned room. Much of it is color print. Is there any chance this stuff can still be used? There’s some 3200 Konica color print, a bunch of 400 speed, and a bunch of T-Max 3200. I know there needs to be some development adjustments, but I was wondering if I could adjust the expose on the color print stuff so I wouldn’t have to develop it myself. Anyway, if anyone has had any experience using this stuff, let me know. I would cry to watch all this film go to waste.

by Cameron Knight at Wed Jul 16 00:23:23 UTC 2008 (ed. Jul 16 2008) Cincinnati, Ohio, United States | Bookmark this | Digg this |

SOoo…just shoot and process a few rolls to see what you get. Don’t know how much a “mother load” actually is but if its free have a blast. Do some arty stuff. The only drawback is when you deplete the stock the trip is over. Maybe see if you can duplicate the same look in PS. Just a thought. Play time!

by Gregory Sharko | 16 Jul 2008 00:07 | Brooklyn, New York, United States |
Hey Cam,

Congratulations on your little find.

Running a couple of test rolls is the easiest way to figure out if that color neg is worth using. You may have a drop in film speed, but the biggest pain will probably be the color shift of the film (that, or base fog). Sometimes it has a nice effect and other times… not so much.

Unfortunately there’s no cut-and-dried adjustment you can make. You simply have to use it and see.

In the end if you decide it’s all too much hassle, let me know. I’d probably be interested in taking it off your hands.

cheers,
Rodrick

by rodrick reidsma | 16 Jul 2008 01:07 | Salina, KS, United States |
If it doesn’t work for you, possibly sell it cheap to LSer Ethan Rafal

by erica mcdonald | 16 Jul 2008 01:07 | New York, United States |
Forget Tmax 3200, you will waste time and money. The color only if you want to experiment with huge grain and weird things. If the color is 120 you can try with a Holga if 35mm with wathever trying to frame simple things because you will lose a lot of sharpness.

by Hernan Zenteno | 16 Jul 2008 01:07 | Buenos Aires, Argentina |
I’ll probably run some tests on it….there’s ton. I bet close to 300 rolls of various stuff. Even some 400 speed Fuji designated for “Law Enforcement Use,” maybe flash balanced or finer grain, I don’t know. I love film, but I’m not a film expert, nor have a been around love enough to have used it professionally for any length of time. I’ve serious never even seen 3200 speed color film, or any film made by Konica for that matter. I’m going to give it all a shot…first test will be the T-Max…I just need to get my chemicals up and running.

by Cameron Knight | 16 Jul 2008 01:07 | Cincinnati, Ohio, United States |
You have to be carefull with color chemicals to not ruin new film. Tell to the lab that the film you carry to them are really expired so they can develop the rolls in the last batch before the replenishment. With Konica 3200 you can get some impressionism fogged style.

by Hernan Zenteno | 16 Jul 2008 02:07 | Buenos Aires, Argentina |
Do not forget Tmax 3200. Definitely not a stupid waste of time or money. It has very unique grain which gets more pronounced the older the film gets, gaining a grainy fog all its own. No matter how expired any film, once tested, it can be used, with purpose suitable for it.

by Stupid Photographer | 16 Jul 2008 05:07 (ed. Jul 16 2008) | Holy Smokes, Holy See |
Cameron,

I’ve seen your works. If you want work at usualy way this films will be waste of your time and money, but if you agree for unexpected results you can use this films.
I used expired films many times. mostly they gives big graine and less or high satrurated color. They could change colors also. Mostly they lost iso speed. but it depedns by film.
If you like experiments and free creativity use this opportunity if not sell or give this films someone it not give you results you want.

sorry for english

by Marcin Luczkowski | 16 Jul 2008 08:07 | Wroclaw, Poland |
Cameron

It will be fine. The B/W especially. I was once given 30 rolls of Fuji Neopan 400 and about a dozen rolls of Ilford XP2 that was 13 years old and not refridgerated. No problem whatsoever! I used it all in a Box Brownie. http://www.markseager.com/box_brownie_index.htm

Why not cross process the colour stuff and make slides. The colours will be freaky but you might get some nice results.

by Mark Seager | 16 Jul 2008 10:07 | London, United Kingdom |
So, let me get this straight, forget the black and white, but totally use the black and white, haha. I’m going to give it all a shot. From the sounds of it, this stuff will produce images and that’s all I’m looking for. If I decide to use any of it for a project, at least I know there will probably be some consistancy throughout a specific film since it’s all the same age and has been stored the same way. I’ll definitely post here if I want to get rid of any of it. One last question… should I refridgerate this stuff now? Would that totally wreck everything or would have the same effect as refridgrating new film, more or less stalling the aging process?

by Cameron Knight | 16 Jul 2008 13:07 | Cincinnati, Ohio, United States |
Fridge is the best place for it, will indeed stall the aging process, especially the color. No stupid problems.

by Stupid Photographer | 16 Jul 2008 13:07 | Holy Smokes, Holy See |
yes, stick ALL in fridge and shoot the hell out of it ALL!!!!…shit, i’d even shoot the Tmax (and im not a fan nor use Tmax, espcially 3200), BUT….as others have pointed out…lots of potential discoveries with all this outdated film, believe me :)))))…

now, can you point me in the direction of where Motherloads of expired film (especially trix, or some ilford) can be had….ummmm, i mean found?.:))

have fun Cameron!:))

running
bob

by Bob Black | 16 Jul 2008 18:07 | Toronto, Canada |
STOOP:

we got any motherloads of old film hiding somewhere at SPA??…marina and i are broke and we need some film to finish a project…….

running
b

by Bob Black | 16 Jul 2008 18:07 | Toronto, Canada |
You guys have gotten me really excited about this. I have my Zorki 4k rangefinder loaded up, and I’ve unsheathed my F3HP. I need to make a run to the camera shop here and get some developer for the b/w. I can’t wait.

by Cameron Knight | 16 Jul 2008 20:07 | Cincinnati, Ohio, United States |
Cameron,

Good choice!

by Marcin Luczkowski | 16 Jul 2008 20:07 | Wroclaw, Poland |
Sgt. Joe Friday: So let me get this straight, ma’am, the suspect was a tallshortfatthingyoungoldwhiteblackfastslowmanwoman with a limplisplist? Is that about the size of it, ma’am?

Eyewitness: Yes, sir

Joe Friday: Thank you for your cooperation, ma’am

by Akaky | 16 Jul 2008 21:07 | New York , United States |

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Cameron Knight, Photojournalist Cameron Knight
Photojournalist
Cincinnati, Ohio , United States
Gregory Sharko, photographer Gregory Sharko
photographer
Brooklyn, New York , United States ( JFK )
rodrick reidsma, Baby Daddy rodrick reidsma
Baby Daddy
(still breathing)
Salina, KS , United States
erica mcdonald, photographer erica mcdonald
photographer
New York , United States
Hernan Zenteno, Photographer Hernan Zenteno
Photographer
Buenos Aires , Argentina
Stupid Photographer, Dazed, shocked, stupefied Stupid Photographer
Dazed, shocked, stupefied
(Stupid Photographers Agency)
Holy Smokes , Holy See
Marcin Luczkowski, Freelance Photographer Marcin Luczkowski
Freelance Photographer
Wroclaw , Poland
Mark Seager, Photographer Mark Seager
Photographer
London , United Kingdom
En route to Perpignan (ETA: Sep 3 2008)
Bob Black, Suspect Photog/Writer Bob Black
Suspect Photog/Writer
(Dreamer- Archer-Husband-Dad)
Toronto , Canada
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Contemptible lout
New York , United States ( AAA )


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