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website update (iraq 2008)

New feature, Iraq 2008. “A Tale of 3 Cities”
www.moisessaman.com

by moises saman at Wed Jul 09 02:39:59 UTC 2008 (ed. Jul 11 2008) new york city, United States | Bookmark this | Digg this |

Very impressive from beginning to end. There were times I was nervous for you just looking at the pictures. Great combination of moments/portraits with landscapes to set the tone. Top notch.

I would love to hear you discuss some of the experiences you had there.

by Brian C Frank | 09 Jul 2008 04:07 | Des Moines, ia, United States |
Evocative and well done, front to back.
Hope you have been well
Jeremy

by Jeremy M. Lange | 09 Jul 2008 12:07 | Durham, NC, United States |
Hi, Moises.

Thanks for the update.
Great to see as always.

Best reagards,

youme.

by youme. | 09 Jul 2008 13:07 | Bangkok, Thailand |
Moises— congratulations on the work. I was unclear from the Times as to whether this was a commentary on what is going on in these cities, ie reporting, or more a general reflection of the mood? There were similar questions from readers on the Times blog I think. Would you consider clarifying your intent and choice of words, as in general the pictures raised more questions than answered them for me. I don’t mean to sound critical…its just that everything about Iraq raises questions for me.

by Andy Levin | 09 Jul 2008 15:07 (ed. Jul 9 2008) | New Orleans, United States |
it’s always a distinct pleasure to see your work moises. my only question is, i don’t know when i’m looking at baghdad, basra, or mosul? perhaps that’s your point? great stuff regardless.

by Lance Rosenfield | 09 Jul 2008 17:07 | Austin, Texas, United States |
Thanks Lancer, as usual, the simplest reaction is often best— that was what I was trying to say.

For me Gilles Peress “Telex” book redefined conflict photography— but it was intentionally ambiguous and had those absurd telexes to Nan with the photos so it was clear that this wasn’t just a report that one might see in US@WR or TIME. I think there is some Telex in Moises fine work, but it isn’t really put into context. News? Editorial feature? Perhaps and more likely “opinion?” I am not sure, and I think it takes something away and definitely frustrates to see. The war is so political I find myself wanting the didactic, whether that is the defacto embed stuff, or what Zoriah was doing, or Eros Hoagland on the Iraqi oil which was somewhere inbetween (but very informational and thank you Eros for that) in other words as a media consumer I want to know how to draw my own conclusions— so wider, less filtered, is more, although as a photographer I admire what Moises has done.

by Andy Levin | 09 Jul 2008 18:07 (ed. Jul 9 2008) | New Orleans, United States |
dear andy, lance…..i really appreciate your comments and questions…..as you know a smaller edit of the 3 cities was published recently in the NYT baghdad bureau blog, the photo editors at the NYT offered me the chance to come up with a very personal edit that would somehow express the mood, more than a journalistic day-to-day account of my travels in iraq while on assignment for them…..i used the 3 cities as the anchor to base the story but by no means i pretended to answer the incredibly complex nature of what is going on in iraq at the moment….
thanks,
moises

by moises saman | 09 Jul 2008 19:07 | new york city, United States |
Thanks Moises, that context makes it easier for me to understand and appreciate your work— which I really admire.

by Andy Levin | 09 Jul 2008 22:07 | New Orleans, United States |
m:

you cannot imagine how important it is that you continue….

that when i first saw the work, i thought, quite simply, there there are still those who sing, wobbly and broken, against all that is thrown against them….this is the importance, for me, as a photogapher, as a writer, as person, of your work….

and so, drunkenly, i write this for anothe friend, an ocean or 2 away, but maybe this makes sense to u too..

My home is the place where my body, the shell and flesh and aging thoughts of this poorly planned life, meets the soil of all that I least expected to find as nourishment but provides the simple character of this: bread and breath. Let me speak to you that I have rarely had much expectations for my life nor for too long felt the cool rush adrenalin of believing that what I did with my life would amount to something significant or unsurmountable. I always felt that I would live, the way my childhood was defined, adrift. Nor had I ever dreamed that I would find a home, a physical geographic point that i could finger-fuck like a warm assurance. My life was not bequeath such certainty. I have know travel, from the time I was a child. I have known exploration and restlessness. I have known uncertainty and fear. I have known sorrow and sadness and screaming parents. I have knowing parents who howled into the long end of a day when i didn’t even have the luxury to know yet what it meant to howl from love and sadness. I saw my mother break apart in front of me. I saw my father divest himself to help her. I saw the landscape of my childhood, homes friends places light time language geogrpahy, pass in front of my life as if a kalidescope of beauty and wreckage. I was convinced that I would never find a home and spend the entirety of my life, the entirety of my peripatetic life defined by that: plant, excavate, run, plant, excavate, run.

I was wrong. My parents, in their human frailty, their restlessless, their wreckage, taught me that home meant, often, little about geographic categories but something less dissolvable.

what is it that we have marked as the place that we have live and how to render that……

i love love this story about Iraq….

and i love love ur work…

exhausted..
b

by Bob Black | 10 Jul 2008 02:07 | Toronto, Canada |
ps….

it makes me sad that i can not drag you up here to speak, to show your work, to let it quelch all the nonsense that still abides….

if there is one, one sadness that i feel about this year, it is that i could nto show you and teru and Balazs….

for me, 3 Cities will be, eventually understood or not, seen as among THE seminal work, the seminal excavation of what we wronged, what countenanced as for 21st century life…it is that important…

b

by Bob Black | 10 Jul 2008 02:07 | Toronto, Canada |
dude do a book this work is epic

by Joe Harrison | 11 Jul 2008 08:07 | Christchurch , New Zealand |

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Austin, Texas , United States ( AUS )
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Toronto , Canada
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Wanaka , New Zealand ( CAA )


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