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While on the road I back up my work on two mirrored drives.

Yesterday I bought two 160gb WD Passport drives from Costco. I plugged the first one in this morning and it wouldn’t show up on the desktop. Tried a different cord with no luck. I could feel the drive spinning then eventually it started to make a clicking noise. Fine, packed it back up and returned both drives back to Costco.

They were $89 a piece btw. Although they just got in the 250gb version (same size) today for $139… $20 off coupon starts Oct. 8. Good deal if they can be trusted. I lost a 500gb version of one of there drives (mybook) a couple of months ago.

Anyway, went to Bestbuy and got two Seagate 160gb drives. Plugged the first one in and got pretty much the same result.

OK never mind. Those two usb connections are there for a reason.

So here’s the questions;

The Western Digital drives just suck or what?

What’s the deal with the double usb connection?

When reformatting the Seagate for the Mac with disk utility, which format do I use?

Thanks,
Ken

by Kenneth Jarecke at Thu Oct 04 21:18:33 UTC 2007 (ed. Mar 12 2008) Montana, United States | Bookmark this | Digg this |

Ken, I like the Hitachi drives, they are the old IBM drives, and they are slightly more expensive….you are better off buying the drive and the enclosure separately, its easy to switch the drives in and out of the enclosures easily. You can get them here http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/firewire/?source=txtFireWire
Are you sure those are USB, not firewire connections you have? Either way the two are there so you can chain them together if you want…I wouldn’t buy at Costco, Walmart, etc,

by Andy Levin | 04 Oct 2007 21:10 (ed. Oct 4 2007) | New Orleans, United States |
hmmm…did you connect to powered USB connections ? Mac or Windows?

by Gregory Sharko | 04 Oct 2007 21:10 | Brooklyn, New York, United States |
The WD drives are gone. The cord that came with them was a usb 2.0, regular on one side mini on the other. I think it was actually a bad drive or housing. It would show up on my desktop and then vanish when I tried to do something. I thought it was a bad cord and switched it out, but had the same result. Then it started to click. Costco took them back with no problem.

The Seagate drive is a usb 2.0, mini on one side the forks into two regular usb connections. I assumed it was designed to hook up two drives and only plugged one of the usb’s into my laptop. Then I read the directions and the drive needs two usb’s to function. I plugged both into the laptop and everything worked right away.

I hadn’t seen the dual usb head before, so that was the mistake. Well, that and not reading the directions.

The Seagates come with a bunch of PC based back-up software and need to be reformatted to work with the Mac. My only real question, is what format is best to reformat into?

I’ve gotten into the habit of backing up on the road to two of the small pocket sized hard drives. So that’s why I buy at Costco or Best Buy. They’re cheap and you have two copies. The jpeg selects are ftp’d off, it’s the raw files that I’m concerned with here.

I think both the usb connections in the 12” powerbook G4 are powered.

Thanks,
Ken

by Kenneth Jarecke | 04 Oct 2007 21:10 | Montana, United States |
Yeah, I was surprised to see the drive housing available on their own at Best Buy today.

by Kenneth Jarecke | 04 Oct 2007 22:10 | Montana, United States |
I bought a Seagate 500 gig( for my Mac) and had a similar problem -ie. I could hear the drive but no icon appeared on desktop. Then as a last resort I referred to the instructions and low and behold all I had to do is reformat it with disc utilities. Result: it works perfectly

by chip chipman | 05 Oct 2007 08:10 | San Francisco area, United States |
I use WD as desk top back up and it’s terrific. I use Seagate on the road. That two usb thing is a pain but it’s rock solid and was highly recommended. I use an old Mac laptop. I never had to format anything. Just plugged in and away I went.

by Paul Treacy | 05 Oct 2007 15:10 | New York City, United States |
I have USB ports on both sides of my laptop. The ones on the right don’t deal with power very well, so devices that require power from the bus don’t work. Drives spin and click because the electricity is not consistent.

The ports on the left work fine.

I use the left ports for external HDs, including Western Digital ones, and the right ports for card readers and other connections that don’t require power.

All my USB ports should work the same, but the computer has the problem, not the drives.

by Preston Merchant | 05 Oct 2007 15:10 | New York, United States |
Western Digital used to make great stuff but they’ve been turned into the budget line since Seagate took them over a few years ago. I don’t use WD anymore. Seagate is my preferred drive.

by Jonathan Castner | 05 Oct 2007 16:10 | Denver, United States |
Kenneth—

If you’re referring to a supplied USB “Y” cable, that’s because the drive needs more power to fully spin up and be functional than a single USB port can provide, thus the need for two cables, since each USB bus has a maximum amount of power output. This is typically not the same with firewire drives, as the power that comes through there is sufficient. further, if you’re using a Mac, you can boot to a FW disk, not a USB one.

The drives, using an external power supply will fully spin up and give you an icon on your desktop.

John

by John Harrington | 05 Oct 2007 23:10 | Washington DC, United States |
Just format using extended and journaled with no os9 drivers and you should be good to go.

by earth oliver | 06 Oct 2007 01:10 | Oregon, United States |
“I could hear the drive but no icon appeared on desktop. Then as a last resort I referred to the instructions and low and behold all I had to do is reformat it with disc utilities. Result: it works perfectly”

Chip or others.. Could u clarify this a bit…
How can u enable disk utility to format a disk for which there is no icon visible on the desktop? Doesn’t the program ask you which disk to select based on what it sees on the desktp? What is the short cut around that ?
Thanks

by richard sobol | 06 Oct 2007 01:10 |
When you open mac utilities, the progam will recognize the driver as well as displaying the driver icon even though you may not see it on your desktop. Ckick on the drive icon( via utilities) and format it. The icon will then appear on you desktop at least this is what I did and it worked fine.

by chip chipman | 06 Oct 2007 04:10 | San Francisco area, United States |
ken,
Were you able to figure out the process and have it work for you?

by chip chipman | 07 Oct 2007 06:10 | San Francisco area, United States |
Thanks to everyone.
I did get the new drives running properly btw.
Regardless as files get bigger, storage seems like it’s always going to be a problem.

by Kenneth Jarecke | 07 Oct 2007 14:10 | Montana, United States |

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