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Which eye, what hand?
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Walking to work this morning, I stopped to snap a picture and somehow the combination of shooting one-handed, carrying a bag on my shoulder and a cigarette and coffee, I found myself holding the camera to my “other” eye.
Since hand-eye-brain functions are all related, I wondered what would happen if I were to force myself to shoot with the other eye. Would I compose differently? Would my pictures be visibly different than those shot with the dominant eye?
Since I’m right-handed, left-eyed, it was a problem when I was learning to shoot (weapons), but with a camera, the goals are, of course quite different, so I’m more curious about artistic differences.
Some people will go as far as to wear an eye patch, to help them shoot a gun better. With my Leica, I’m pretty sure I’d need to do something like that, since I would otherwise need to wink the other eye closed all the time.
Then there’s the question of Left/Right Brain: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22556281-661,00.html
So I was curious: What hand do you favor? What eye do you favor? What “brain” are you? (Based on that link.)
Do you close the other eye when you compose? How difficult do you think it would be to switch eyes? Do you think it would make a noticeable difference in your resulting photos?
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Jim O'Connell
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Thu Jan 31 08:15:38 UTC 2008
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Interesting question.. I’m a right hand, left eye snapper and I usually keep my right eye open because its easier and the camera obscures my sight. I just tried other combinations and it feels incredibly uncomfortable. Although I found my SLR to be easier to use right-eyed than an RF. Im going to see if it changes anything compositionally…
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right hand, right eye. the ‘test’ called me right-brained. guess that makes sense…
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Right, right. But I think I’ll try using my left eye for this project I have in mind. Nice idea.
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Right eye, predominantly right hand and according to the test right brained then left, then right, then right, then left again!
I got dizzy ‘cos it just kept changing between the two for no apparent reason!
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Does it really matter? Right right, but the result is more important than how you get to it (in my opinion of course)
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I lost my left contact lens while I was photographing in Indonesia recently. So I went from left eye to right eye…and now I still use the right one. Right handed. Test said left though…
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right hand, right eye, left one open at the same time.
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i saw a picture of a left-handed nikon once, but i assumed it was a one-off. is it possible to buy such a thing? with my present gear shooting left-handed would seriously affect my style as i wouldn’t be able to reach the shutter.
i use either eye and regularly switch between them.
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Jim, I’m the same as you. Right handed and left eyed.
My grandfather (Dr. Vearl McBride) did a great deal of study as a professor regarding this subject back in the 60’s and 70’s in relation to speed reading. He found (as did other’s of course) that there was a huge correlation in hand-eye coordination and left and right brain functions.
As a kid I was subjected to wearing an eye patch to “correct” my being uncoordinated (left-eyed, right handed and footed). It of course sucked. Imagine going to school as a 13 year old for a month wearing a pirate-patch. My ego still bears the scars, and any pirate movie sends me into hysterics…
Anyway. Back to the point, I suck at math. Always have, but during the time I was wearing that damn patch my math skills improved incredibly. I aced just about every math test for the exact time I was Captain Hook. Not exactly perfect science, but it was enough to convince me.
I didn’t wear the patch long enough to fully correct the “problem.” The beatings from other children became far too frequent to justify the continued usage. However, this was before I had heard of Leica’s.
My MP has been begging me to bring out the old patch. It obviously makes a difference. Maybe some day I’ll be able to use the viewfinder as God intended.
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It just struck me how stupid these questions will likely seem to future generations that will have never handled a still photo camera, or seen a viewfinder and a shutter button, since the video cameras sown into their cloths and recording every moment of their lives, will be as invisible to them as plumbing is to us.
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I’ve thought about this before, and was shocked when I read that “Most Leica photographers therefore shoot with both eyes open, developing a manner of seeing that engages them with the subject rather than reducing the world to a miniature image with shallow depth of field and reduced brightness and contrast.”
I find that dizzying, but may try to cultivate it as an experiment, lord knows it feels different than using just one eye or even from shooting from the hip, as the eyes are doing distinct tasks this way.
Normally with 35, r hand, r eye, left hand reaches over the top to block light coming in at the eye, a trademarked move which MEM herself was quite taken with when once she witnessed it in action.
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I’d have thought that shooting with a Leica meant you only needed one eye as you and seeing well beyond the edges of the capture frame and it never blacks out. Mind you, with the Leica finder at extreme left it’s easy to keep both open.
I had an Hexar AF once upon a time with the finder at extreme left. Now I shoot exclusively with a D200 and manual primes. I always have both eyes open. It’s as much about security as anything else though. When you shoot on the streets as much as I do, or did rather, what you actually need are eyes at the back of your head, you know?
Given that we humans have stereo vision for judging distance, like most mammalian predators, using both eyes while also looking through a camera viewfinder plays havoc on the brain as it interrupts that process. However, I find that I can process information from both eyes independently most of the time but I have to be fresh and full of energy to do so. If I’m tired I just can’t do it and often times I won’t be seeing pictures anyway.
Anyone else? In fact, I can steer my eyes in different directions simultaneously. I do it to get laughs from the kids sometimes. It’s exhausting though. If we ever bump into each other over a pint you can ask me to do it but I might spill my drink or fall over.
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Does it matter, since you decide to photograph something long before you raise the camera to your eye? Usually, you don’t walk around with one eye closed, squinting through the viewfinder, looking for something to photograph. You have already taken notice of the light, the situation, whatever else drew your attention. Tripping the shutter is the last in a series of decisions that leads to the making of the photo. At some point, you don’t even need to look through the viewfinder.
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Right hand, left eye. Both eyes open when shooting.
According to the web site test, I’m like Lisa…it first went counter clockwise…then I looked away a moment and it reversed. Then I found I could reverse it at will, but that it also sometimes reversed on it’s own.
Seeing the number of folks who use their left eye is somewhat comforting – I have recently been wondering if I should force myself to use the right eye, but when I do it’s difficult, I have problems just lining up my eye so I can see the whole frame, and then it’s really uncomfortable.
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Preston, it’s not really like that, is it?
I guess by the tick tock of a clock it’s a short period of time. But time is relative. For me, when the camera is at my eye it can seem like an eternity as people and their shadows, birds, traffic and what not, slow to a crawl. It’s during moments like this that I think I briefly go deaf as my brain appears to draw energy from other faculties and aims it at my vocal processing allowing just enough in reserve for my muscles to physically hold my posture. I’m also momentarily rendered mute during these intense situations. If someone touches me then everything instantly speeds up and I snap out of it losing that edge of control. I’ll also be uncontrollably furious many times as if mood management becomes disabled briefly. It’s quite an intoxicating experience in fact.
The way Michael Shumacher waltzed his Ferari on a rain soaked race track faster than anyone else always fascinated me. He was at one with his machine. Right on the edge.
How Rodger Federer seemed to almost create time to position himself to make, what would otherwise be, an impossible cross court winner. How did these guys make it seem so easy?
I spend a lot of time thinking about this. This acute concentration that seems to slow the world down.
I once was told during a lifeguard training session that by the laws of averages one of us in the class would one day have to perform a rescue in difficult circumstances and most likely not while on duty. This frightened me somewhat. It turns out that in 1991 I was in such a situation in the small hours of a frigid winter night when I decided to jump into a river and pull out a young woman who had changed her mind having attempted to take her own life. She ended up in the hospital for three weeks very ill as a result of acute hypothermia. I too had some difficulties as a result but they were short lived only lasting a couple of hours when I actually lost my mind.
Everything seemed to last so long during the rescue but onlookers said it was all over very quickly. Ever since I’ve been almost obsessed with this perception of slowed down time. Like when you know a drink is about to fall from a table but you’re frozen and unable to catch it. Much of the time I’ll catch it. For me it’s “being in the zone”.
I’m left eye dominant but shoot using my right. I’m also quite ambidextrous.
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I’ve thought about the same thing, Paul.
I think in some cases it’s not just concentration, but also a combination of inherent ability and practice (the sports examples, and seeing/catching things quickly). But those instances where time just slows down (your rescue example), I think it’s an amazing ability where we instantly ramp our brains and reactions up into hyperdrive. I have an eexperience similar to yours, where I was almost in a head-on collision when a driver crossed the center line…it was over in 2 or 3 seconds (if that long), but seemed like ten times that. I can still remember every single detail.
Amazing things, our brains. makes me wonder how much untapped potential is really in there, for all of us.
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hands: both
eye: left (im blind in my right eye)
almost never “compose” or “frame” anymore….grew weary of that and looking through the frame (which i do, occasionally now, when im feeling “frightened”)..
b
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right hand right eye…and have try some shots using left eye and think maybe the pic and the composition could come the same because, i guess, we have some preview of the pic in mind and as soon as we bring the camera to the eye we look to take that idea…no???...but what i feel is that the position with the left eye working doesn´t help to let the moment and the photo flow as usual…and for me that is an important part of the photo too…
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Works that way for me, Paul. But maybe it’s because I use a 30D and can’t see through the viewfinder anyway. Perhaps it was different when I shot with an Olympus OM-1.
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OK, so this started me wondering….just got out my kit and realized that with the 30D I shoot with my left eye, and with something smaller (like a G7) I use my right..
The 30D just doesn’t feel right when I use my right eye for soem reason.
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I am right handed, shoot left eye. had a leica a little while ago, and tried shooting right eyed. it was extremely uncomfortable and difficult actually…
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i think if you look at most cameras they are designed to be used with a right hand and a left eye. the shutter release is always on the right and the viewfinder is offset to the left.
i tried to use my right eye but it hurts my neck, it seems possible to switch but not comfortable.
the spinning lady does not dictate what your hand dominance is, that is to say your brain sidedness (if it is real at all) does not have to correlate with handedness.
preston, sure you see a scene and decide to take a photo before looking through the camera but i often find that once i do look through the camera i may want to change how i am looking at it or not want to take the photo at all. though i agree i sometimes shoot from the hip, i suppose i do the framing in my minds eye in those cases.
paul, know what you mean with the slow down. i think it just has to do with concentration, like you say being in the zone. where you can do whatever your work is and not think about anything else, not think about time or your surroundings. where an hour can be a minute or vice versa. i get the feelings quite often.
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Exactly right Andrew. I rode a motorcycle in London for years and never came off but had too many close encounters. That slowing down time business saved my ass. It seems our machines are not constrained by time. How could they be? Time is a human construct anyway.
Another thing I’ve noticed with my two children, particularly my youngest, is how he uses his strength. Adults pick things up using their arm and back muscles, primarily. But little boys, certainly my little Connor, doesn’t. Rather he seems to gather the required energy from his entire body to pick things up. He uses all of his muscles from everywhere to perform simple things. This morning he picked up a heavy box of train tracks in his bedroom to bring into the living room so that he could build a new track. He’s only three years old and I’d have thought the box too heavy for him. He’s tall but not overly big for his age and yet he performed the task flawlessly which astonished both my wife and me.
Might there be something to this, I wonder? It’s how I operate. Since that rescue incident when, most likely, only adrenalin must have been pumping through my veins, I managed to drag this woman, who was about my size and wearing a heavy coat, out of the water and lifted her over a fence. I still wonder about how I managed to do it while the water was only 3 degrees Celsius (my father measured it the next morning). Since then, I’ve thought of physical tasks as requiring energy rather than strength. Perhaps these are one and the same anyway. Notice how some boxers seem to use their entire bodies like coiled springs rather than just big strong arms? Tiger Woods is good at coiling like a spring. He seems to be able to hit a golf ball further than anyone else and he’s not the biggest guy on the course.
We can learn from watching children. They just go at life with such gusto and with their entire minds and bodies free. Something to think about. Mind, matter and energy are so closely linked. Life is a force. A very formidable force. It’s astonishing to me that that force of life can, to a certain extent, overcome time. Overpower time. Well weird. But true.
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When I was small I used to be left handed, but when my parents thought that the society, which they thought discriminated against left-handed retarded kids, could harm me in unforeseeable ways, they decided to reorient me ;o) so I ended up being an artificial right-hander ;o) This has it’s advantages as I too am quite ambidextrous.
Left eyed. I find it impossible to focus with the other one. I’ve tried on many occasions to take a ‘cool-looking’ self-portrait of myself in the mirror where I hold up the camera to my right eye, focus and take a photo with at least half my face showing (since when you are left-eyed the camera is in your face) but I’ve never managed to focus or compose. So for all intensive purposes I too like Bob have a blind right eye, which I guess is only useful to some extent in judging distance.
I once injured my right hand during a stupid fireworks experiment and had a big bulky cast on it for a couple of weeks as all five fingers had at least one bone cracked or broken and I thus had to learn how to operate my manual nikon using only my left hand. At first it was almost impossible to hold it with my left hand in a way where I would also use my left hand to engage the shutter, but after some practice I developed a neat grip and although it looked funny I was able to carry on understanding the world trough my lens.
As part of my course at university I had a neuroscience class where they thought us about how contemporary science sees the brain to be exceptionally flexible – meaning that the old idea that certain parts of the brain are used for certain things is no longer excepted. We now know that certain parts of the brain are usually used for certain tasks, but can be easily reprogrammed to perform others with astonishing precision. They taught us many cool experiments, but the one that stuck with me was the one where a professor took a bunch of clumsy people that had very bad spacial perception and could not feel any differences in Braille writing using their fingers and blind folded them. After something like 10 days they all had phenomenal spacial perception, could distinguish between different symbols in Braille and their audio perception became much more refined. After their blindfolds were take off they had problems with visual coordination and as that slowly returned they lost spacial orientations and digital sensory discrimination. There are many other really cool experiments on how we perceive images and sounds and how we can alter our brains to perceive these stimuli differently.
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there isn’t many cameras you can shoot left handed, is there??
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right hand, left eye. I would prefer to shoot with my right eye but its my bad eye.
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Ambidexterity – I guess I’m lucky.
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shoot left handed… most medium format firing grips are on the left side. drives me bonkers a i still haven’t learned how to focus with my right hand.
right handed, right eyed. handle my hockey stick left handed though.
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I am left eyed, right handed. I injured my left eye and had to shoot frame with my right for a while. I hit my 1D several times against my head trying to locate the viewfinder! I can do this automatically when I use my left eye… I noticed I had a different look when I use my right eye. Don’t like it, less creative… Some psychology freak once told me that, by using my left eye, I hide myself behind that big camera. Safety and shyness. Don’t know if this is true, but could be…
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That’s an interesting thought… Right hand, right eye. I keep my left eye shut while focusing, and if I’m shooting a busy scene I tend to keep both eyes open.
I always look both ways when crossing the street…
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But not at the same time, I hope, J-F?
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Paul, that would be way too much for me to handle… But you should see me cross the streets of London… I shut both eye and pray for the best.
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Probably, the most important thing is to keep the eye that is pointed at the view finder open.
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Thanks for all of the fantastic responses. I’m going to try to learn to shoot “right-eyed, left eye open” with my M2 for a while, to see if my pictures “feel” any different.
(That said, I wonder if I should them look at the resulting photos with one eye closed…)
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All the best photographers are have a dominant left eye, for which we praise the Exacta.
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I really find this topic interesting. Another post on this same subject a few years back may have actually been why I joined LS. I am right handed and my right eye is dominant. And that dancer spins clockwise for me so I guess right brained too. But when I bring a camera up to my face, it goes to my left eye. (but shooting a rifle, I sight with my right eye) I usually keep both eyes open unless more concentration is needed inside the viewfinder. I have also found a cool trick shooting with my left eye with digital cameras I can look at the screen with my right eye and see what’s going on behind me. Doesn’t help much with composition though. Sascha mentioned that cameras are made for right hands and left eyes, but I would have to disagree. Cause when the left eye goes to the viewfinder the nose goes to the screen. It is easier to have your nose over sticking out next to the camera, but that would mean using my right eye, and I feel the same way as I do trying to throw something with my left arm. I can do it, but it is forced and uncomfortable.
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close both eyes and shoot from the hip. Out of 60 crap pictures you will come up with one brilliant one. A Eureka moment, and you’ll never go back to looking through a viewfinder again.
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Right handed, Right eyed. Probably because my left eye’s natural lens is slightly busted since birth ;-) And I don’t particularly like wearing glasses while shooting.
Though since you mention, I want to try out altering my habits and see if it affects how I compose the final frame – since most of the composition is done when the camera is still dangling by the shoulder.
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Hamish, Do you think all this reverses if one is south of the equator; you know, just as water swirls down the drain in the opposite direction?
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It depends how many whiskies I have in me and who is standing in my way.
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right one of course, if you’re right handed.
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Right hand,right eye, with the left eye open.
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Right eye, right hand, right foot when playing football. My left is useless. Except for politics.
John
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Right eye, right hand with me. My father, an avid amateur photographer for years, was born left handed, but learned to use his right hand. When he got stricken with Parkinson’s disease, his right hand use got affected to the extent that he reverted to left-handed.
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I think it’s a muscle training thing with me, or is that called old habits from very early days. My dominant eye is the Right, I just have trouble naturally getting a viewfinder to my Right eye but no such problem with a pistol/ weapon scope though, that’s why I think it’s muscle training thing(or just awkward).
So for me; Right hand – Left eye.
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