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Hi all,
Do someone have a good miracle and free software to take off noise on digital picture! I’ve tried on cameraraw and raw shooter and it was not really efficient!
I’m on D70s with the very small 18-70mm (!!) and I took lots of pictures in dark conditions so that I had to reach the 1250 and even 1600 iso settings… (I know, I know!!…). As you can see in my gallery, lots of pictures are very “noisy” in the darks, if not everywhere…
I know that a cheap lens AND a cheap sensor don’t allow me to use the 1000 iso and after but sometimes…
I’m not really reasonable I know!… :)
Thanks for answers.
ps : I’m on mac.

by albin millot at 2006-07-06 11:07:50 UTC (ed. Mar 12 2008 ) Paris , France | Bookmark | | Report spam→

try noise ninja,not free but relatively cheap.
i looked at your gallery and i think you are worrying too much,i could not not see any excessive noise.probably gets worse on a print though.personally i don’t find noise too irritating,i think of it the same way i think of grain,it can be used positively.
strong pictures of the protests by the way.

by Michael Bowring | 06 Jul 2006 11:07 | Belgrade, Serbia | | Report spam→
thank you for answering.
I agree with you about noise/grain.
If you would have seen time i spent to minimize disasters (I know that everybody spend it!!)!! And how many pictures I’ve thrown away!! This is the game when I decide to take picture at night without a good
Anyway, I’ll try Ninja. By the way that name sounds familiar to me…
As i can see at your gallery, you are a “colourist”! Do you know Harry Gruyaert? Some of your pictures reminds me his work. Specially “Phone Box” and " Angel", my prefers…
Bye, Albin.

by albin millot | 06 Jul 2006 11:07 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
I agree the noise is not a problem with your images, anyway digital sterilisation is a bit of a fad, the smooth as a baby’s bum with as much detail as possible look is a turn off and quite frankly on the nose

by Imants | 06 Jul 2006 12:07 | 7. Kalni, Australia | | Report spam→
Albin, Nothing wrong with your camera, a faster lens would be nice since I’ve found proper exposure and white balance to be the the key ingredients to avoiding bad noise. Most people that complain about noise in any of the modern digitals are jacking up their levels and curves to bring the images up to proper exposure. If you under expose, even with RAW, it’ll kill your image. Have you tried printing up to say, 11×14 inches? My guess is that you’ll find it’s not as bad as you think. Noise Ninja is a great program. Used delicately, it can make a well exposed ISO 1600 look like an ISO 640-800 image. I recently had a ISO 1000 from a D2H blown up to poster size to hang on the wall here at work. With a little Noise Ninja tweaking, to my eye and my co-workers, it looks as least as good as my old Fuji 800 film. Good luck. JLee

by James J. Lee | 06 Jul 2006 15:07 | Washington D.C., United States | | Report spam→
I agree with everyone.Whenever you underexpose in dark conditions and try to brihgten up a picture noise comes to the party big time. It’s better to try to slightly over expose than you want then darken it later. It seems like the photos you have with noise are often high in contrast like bright lights directly in the photo, which makes it difficult to over expose and not lose lots of detail. But the photos really don’t have so much noise that it detracts from your photos and what you are showing.

For everything else except dark conditions the 18 70 is great, it’s so light too. But for these situations try something like a 20 or 24mm f2.8 prime lense (30 and 36mm on d70), cheaper than buying the pro grade zoom lenses which are maybe overkill for a consumer camera sensor.

by Jonathan Biles | 06 Jul 2006 16:07 | Johannesburg, South Africa | | Report spam→

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albin millot, Photographer/Assistant albin millot
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