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Philip Jones Griffiths

We will all miss the dedication and love shown by photographer Philip Jones Griffiths who died March 19.
His work was an inspiration to me and I’m sure to many others.

Trolley Books has a beautiful quote from Philip and a link to a BBC interview.
http://www.trolleybooks.com/trolleynews.php?article=56

by Nina Berman at 2008-03-20 20:15:59 UTC (ed. Mar 23 2008 ) New York City , United States | Bookmark | | Report spam→

a very fine quote, thanks for that.

by Narayan Mahon | 20 Mar 2008 20:03 | Istanbul, Turkey | | Report spam→
This important interview with Aperture

http://www.aperture.org/jonesgriffiths/

With the distinction between Real Magnum and Magnum Lite. On photography and art, and photojournalism.

Time article

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/obituaries/article3586366.ece?token=null&offset=0

by Daniel Legendre | 21 Mar 2008 10:03 | Paris, France | | Report spam→
for the ones who didn’t seen yet:

http://inmotion.magnumphotos.com/essays/warsgriffiths.aspx

by Paulo Nunes dos Santos | 21 Mar 2008 11:03 (ed. Mar 21 2008) | Dublin, Ireland | | Report spam→
My hope is that someone will come along and do for the Iraq war what PJG did for Vietnam. Vietnam Inc is no ordinary photo book. A toast to a great thinker, que descanses en paz.

by Jon Anderson | 21 Mar 2008 15:03 | Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic | | Report spam→
kamber has done some quite remarkable work and certainly continues on:

http://www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/03/20/world/middleeast/20080319KAMBER_index.html

and yes mr griffiths has been a tremendous influence. he will be missed at the chinatown dim sum saturday morning brunches.

by [former member] | 21 Mar 2008 17:03 | nyc, United States | | Report spam→
Hey Jake!! Yes that is true, and there are others doing good work there too — the question is how to pull it all together and make a larger statement about the meaning of the war. And that is a real challenge. I am sure that eventually such statements will start appearing,and if so, then the legacy of PJG is alive and well.

by Jon Anderson | 21 Mar 2008 18:03 | Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic | | Report spam→
I am so sad to see this happened. My condolences to Donna and his entire family. Photographers like Philip and Eugene W. Smith don’t appear so easily. Personally,for me, it is almost impossible to think that legacy of Philip will continue as I see Eugene’s legacy doesn’t exist anymore. There others such as Robert Frank and Eugene Richards that I would want to hear same news… Probably, Philip was a “great thinker” so he had produced great photographs….

Bests,

-A

by | 21 Mar 2008 18:03 | Toronto, Canada | | Report spam→

I don’t know Jon. There’s a point of saturation these days that make the kind of impact that PJG had with Vietnam, Inc. difficult. A certain photographer we all know recently said:

There are too many images. Too many cameras now. We’re all being watched. It gets sillier and sillier. As if all action is meaningful. Nothing is really all that special. It’s just life. If all moments are recorded, then nothing is beautiful and maybe photography isn’t an art anymore. Maybe it never was.
—Robert Frank, Vanity Fair, April 2008, p177

Not sure I agree, but it’s food for thought.


by John Robert Fulton Jr. | 21 Mar 2008 18:03 | Fort Worth, Texas, United States | | Report spam→
food for thought yes, but I dont actually agree at all. There are images, and then there are Images, and the supply of the latter could well be inexhaustible though rare. I think what makes the difference, vis a vis books like Vietnam Inc. is the thinking that goes on in the editing process — the process whereby the photographer creates a coherent narrative and some kind of meaningful whole out of the individual parts. I mean, the same criticism that Frank levels at imagery could be altered slightly to include verbal prose — think of all the words spilled in the attempt to define experience, and how much of it is pure crap — a sea of feeble words and ideas — but some narratives just rise above the others and manage to convert mere verbiage into something marvelous and moving. Anyway, I dont myself buy the argument about image fatigue and all that — sure there is a sea of characterless, undistinguished imagery, both video and still, that immerses us, but there are still images whose salty sting manages to arrest us in mindless midstroke . . . . .

by Jon Anderson | 21 Mar 2008 20:03 | Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic | | Report spam→
I’m with you. One of the things that made The Americans so powerful was the book and the sequencing. And, interestingly, Frank stopped taking photographs just after his book came out. Still we’re inundated.

by John Robert Fulton Jr. | 21 Mar 2008 21:03 | Fort Worth, Texas, United States | | Report spam→
while not as powerful as Vietnam Inc., i think geert van kesteren’s Why Mister Why is a book about Iraq that is in somewhat the same vein….

Rest in Peace Mr. Griffiths, an extraordinary soul indeed.

by Kenneth Dickerman | 22 Mar 2008 03:03 (ed. Mar 22 2008) | NYC, United States | | Report spam→
“By definition ‘art photography’ fails to make the grade because it lacks content. Now some might say, ‘Define content!’ Obviously, I’m not talking about silent subject matter—a sun-speckled wall or a pattern of tiles on the side of a building. For me, using the simplest of words, I want to look at the photograph and learn something; I want to receive a message, and the message should be comprehensible not just to an incestuous cabal of ‘artists,’ but to everyone. Real photography is a wonderfully inclusive, democratic medium, whereas ‘art photography’ is more often a private pursuit by conmen.”

superb.

by [former member] | 22 Mar 2008 12:03 | Philadelphia, United States | | Report spam→

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Participants

Nina Berman, Photographer Nina Berman
Photographer
New York City , United States
Narayan Mahon, Photographer Narayan Mahon
Photographer
Madison, Wisconsin , United States
Daniel Legendre, Photographer Daniel Legendre
Photographer
Paris , France
Paulo Nunes dos Santos, Journalist & Photographer Paulo Nunes dos Santos
Journalist & Photographer
Dublin , Ireland
Jon Anderson, Photographer & Writer Jon Anderson
Photographer & Writer
Ocala Florida , United States
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West , Belize
John Robert Fulton Jr., Photographs John Robert Fulton Jr.
Photographs
Spring Lake, Michigan , United States
Kenneth Dickerman, Photographer Kenneth Dickerman
Photographer
Nyc , United States


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